Dave Galanter
December 1st 1969 - December 12th 2020
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Unstable Molecule

Location: Calgary, AB Canada
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Bk Ray

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Subj: San Junipero seemed a bit shallow
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 at 12:27:01 pm EST (Viewed 527 times)
Reply Subj: You can ONLY choose San Junipero or USS Callister as your 'final destination'
Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 at 07:42:40 am EST (Viewed 554 times)

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Your digital 'essence' is either...

Stuck in an 80's themed seaside resort, with a beach and you have eternal youth with your partner (optional!), the town is full of similar people. Some 'visitors from time to time' and you have the options to move to the 90's if you would like. We'll say that is split into numerous back-ups, from time to time, the occasional acquaintance might be there (assume that perhaps a couple of your class mates were from school, a former colleague etc and someone from your street when you were growing up, maybe a friends brief ex girlfriend or boyfriend - people you would add as an acquaintance on facebook). From a Friend's TV show, you are Joey and say Janice, Gunther and one of Rachel's sisters etc. The environment is reasonably safe, but you are aware that you are a 'ghost in the machine'. Alternatievly you can swap your partner with someone else, who is important in your life (so Joey could have say Chandler or Rachel instead).


Stuck in a 'Star Trek' parody in an infinite simulated universe. You are leading the ship with half a dozen of your work colleagues (and it is the revised universe - you have working parts). Plenty of excitement and wonder, but you have gamer's in the universe as well, which you can avoid if you wish. You are in the web, assume you are safe from being put into a pocket programme.

I think most people will choose San Junipero, mostly because it was portrayed as a place where two people found their soul mates and lived happily ever after, whereas the USS Callister was a place where innocent people were victimized/subjugated by an all-powerful monster. But neither place was really depicted as heaven on earth, were they?

Take the San Junipero episode. It focused on the two women who fell in love, but there was a third character too. There was a blond guy who fell in love with the black woman. He repeatedly told her he thought they had a real connection. But she kept telling him that she had used him for sex and didn't want to know him. Was that guy enjoying his afterlife?

Just because you are permanently young and on vacation doesn't mean you are going to be happy. Frankly, it looked like an extremely shallow place where people were clubbing (or sex-dungeoning) their way through their afterlife without forming meaningful relationships. Sounds like someplace I'd like to visit for a couple of weeks, but definitely not someplace to spend the infinite hereafter.

As for the USS Callister - no thank you. Being stuck in a virtual world with a bunch of gamers who are at liberty to be the massive trolls they naturally are? Sounds more like hell.

"It is not our abilities that show what we truly are. It is our choices." – Albus Dumbledore
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