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Subj: Re: Your single data point is too small and misleading
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 at 11:33:42 pm CST (Viewed 456 times)

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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 at 05:20:15 pm CST (Viewed 413 times)

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Chicago is mostly gang-ridden, and gangs almost always obtain their guns illegally. And again, other states have very lax gun laws but low homicide rates. Look at Vermont, for starters.

Vermont is a slight outlier. If you look at all 50 states, there is a clear trend in which more guns = more gun deaths:

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Florida · Bk Ray · Thu Feb 15, 2018 at 03:25:35 am CST
- If kids are hitting each other with sticks..... · Bk Ray · Tue Feb 27, 2018 at 03:37:15 am CST
  - Re: If kids are hitting each other with sticks..... · bd2999 · Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 01:51:54 pm CST
- I think this goes here... · Would be Watcher · Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 10:10:31 am CST
  - And that too... · Would be Watcher · Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 08:02:38 pm CST
    - IDK why FB blurp so many all of a sudden but here is one more... · Would be Watcher · Tue Feb 20, 2018 at 04:09:07 pm CST
      - Re: IDK why FB blurp so many all of a sudden but here is one more... · bd2999 · Wed Feb 21, 2018 at 01:51:50 pm CST
        
        Re: What Conspiracy Theories? And, Guns! · Comicguy1 · Wed Feb 21, 2018 at 06:28:57 pm CST
        
        Re: What Conspiracy Theories? And, Guns! · zvelf · Thu Feb 22, 2018 at 12:22:49 pm CST
        
        Re: Actually, Check This Out. · Comicguy1 · Thu Feb 22, 2018 at 04:32:14 pm CST
        
        Re: Actually, Check This Out. · Trent Trueheart · Sat Feb 24, 2018 at 07:13:39 am CST
        
        Re: No · Comicguy1 · Sat Feb 24, 2018 at 07:40:11 pm CST
        
        Re: No · Trent Trueheart · Sun Feb 25, 2018 at 09:17:29 am CST
        
        Re: You Can't PREVENT Mass Shootings! · Comicguy1 · Tue Feb 27, 2018 at 11:41:41 am CST
        
        Re: You Can't PREVENT Mass Shootings! · Trent Trueheart · Thu Mar 01, 2018 at 07:47:48 am CST
        
        Re: Nonsense! · Comicguy1 · Thu Mar 01, 2018 at 11:58:36 am CST
        
        Re: Nonsense! · Trent Trueheart · Fri Mar 02, 2018 at 09:24:30 am CST
        
        Re: Precautions, Yes. · Comicguy1 · Fri Mar 02, 2018 at 06:08:12 pm CST
        
        Re: Precautions, Yes. · Trent Trueheart · Fri Mar 02, 2018 at 06:47:30 pm CST
        
        Re: Clearly. · Comicguy1 · Fri Mar 02, 2018 at 09:13:14 pm CST
        
        Re: You Can't PREVENT Mass Shootings! · zvelf · Tue Feb 27, 2018 at 10:28:04 pm CST
        
        Re: There Are Other Forms Of Mass Killings. · Comicguy1 · Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 09:31:04 am CST
        
        Re: There Are Other Forms Of Mass Killings. · zvelf · Fri Mar 02, 2018 at 12:29:27 pm CST
        
        Re: You're Arguing On An Emotional Level. · Comicguy1 · Fri Mar 02, 2018 at 03:29:38 pm CST
        
        Re: You're Arguing On An Emotional Level. · zvelf · Fri Mar 02, 2018 at 11:00:50 pm CST
        
        Re: Please Stop Putting Words Into My Mouth · Comicguy1 · Sat Mar 03, 2018 at 07:34:41 am CST
        
        Re: Please Stop Putting Words Into My Mouth · bd2999 · Mon Mar 05, 2018 at 03:27:16 pm CST
        
        Re: Not Really. · Comicguy1 · Mon Mar 05, 2018 at 07:54:30 pm CST
        
        Re: Not Really. · Bk Ray · Tue Mar 06, 2018 at 12:46:15 am CST
        
        Re: We're Talking About MASS Killers, Here. · Comicguy1 · Tue Mar 06, 2018 at 10:46:00 am CST
        
        I fail to see your point... · bd2999 · Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 01:47:45 pm CST
        
        Re: I Didn't Say That Nothing Should Be Done. · Comicguy1 · Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 08:56:45 pm CST
        
        False · bd2999 · Tue Feb 27, 2018 at 02:27:49 pm CST
        
        Re: I'm Not Against All Regulations. · Comicguy1 · Tue Feb 27, 2018 at 07:03:31 pm CST
        
        Re: I'm Not Against All Regulations. · bd2999 · Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 01:51:10 pm CST
        
        Re: The Assault Weapons Ban Wasn't Unconstitutional. No. · Comicguy1 · Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 09:02:25 pm CST
        
        Re: Actually, Check This Out. · The Black Guardian · Fri Feb 23, 2018 at 07:18:38 am CST
        
        Re: No, Not At All. · Comicguy1 · Fri Feb 23, 2018 at 07:08:22 pm CST
        
        Ye, Most Certainly. · The Black Guardian · Sat Feb 24, 2018 at 09:29:29 am CST
        
        Re: Not Sure Where Your Getting This From. · Comicguy1 · Sat Feb 24, 2018 at 07:43:45 pm CST
        
        Re: Not Sure Where Your Getting This From. · zvelf · Tue Feb 27, 2018 at 10:19:21 pm CST
        
        Re: If The Shooters Want To Go Out In A Blaze Of Glory · Comicguy1 · Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 09:34:25 am CST
        
        Re: If The Shooters Want To Go Out In A Blaze Of Glory · zvelf · Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 08:40:02 pm CST
        
        Re: DUH! · Comicguy1 · Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 09:04:21 pm CST
        
        Re: DUH! · zvelf · Thu Mar 01, 2018 at 02:23:30 pm CST
        
        Re: No, It's Not My Belief. · Comicguy1 · Thu Mar 01, 2018 at 03:34:35 pm CST
        
        Re: No, It's Not My Belief. · zvelf · Fri Mar 02, 2018 at 12:25:22 pm CST
        
        Re: If The Shooters Want To Go Out In A Blaze Of Glory · bd2999 · Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 01:55:00 pm CST
        
        Re: Very RARELY Do They Target Those Locations! · Comicguy1 · Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 09:08:07 pm CST
        
        Re: Actually, Check This Out. · zvelf · Thu Feb 22, 2018 at 05:21:18 pm CST
        
        Re: I Didn't Say That They NEVER Happen! · Comicguy1 · Thu Feb 22, 2018 at 05:39:11 pm CST
        
        Re: I Didn't Say That They NEVER Happen! · zvelf · Thu Feb 22, 2018 at 08:24:49 pm CST
        
        Re: That Doesn't Change The Fact · Comicguy1 · Thu Feb 22, 2018 at 09:17:59 pm CST
        
        Re: That Doesn't Change The Fact · zvelf · Thu Feb 22, 2018 at 10:21:11 pm CST
        
        Re: No, Ridiculous. · Comicguy1 · Fri Feb 23, 2018 at 07:04:17 pm CST
        
        Re: No, Ridiculous. · zvelf · Sat Feb 24, 2018 at 06:46:53 am CST
        
        Re: No, Still Ridiculous. · Comicguy1 · Sat Feb 24, 2018 at 08:33:12 pm CST
        
        Re: No, Still Ridiculous. · zvelf · Sun Feb 25, 2018 at 04:38:49 pm CST
        
        Re: No, Still Ridiculous. · bd2999 · Tue Feb 27, 2018 at 02:31:08 pm CST
        Re: Fallacies. · Comicguy1 · Mon Feb 26, 2018 at 12:12:29 pm CST
        
        Re: Fallacies. · zvelf · Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 08:44:06 pm CST
        
        Re: Somewhat Better. · Comicguy1 · Thu Mar 01, 2018 at 12:49:21 pm CST
        
        Re: Somewhat Better. · zvelf · Fri Mar 02, 2018 at 12:23:37 pm CST
        
        Re: You're Going Backwards Now. · Comicguy1 · Fri Mar 02, 2018 at 03:24:13 pm CST
        
        Re: You're Going Backwards Now. · zvelf · Fri Mar 02, 2018 at 10:58:18 pm CST
        
        Re:Aaaaaaand · Comicguy1 · Sat Mar 03, 2018 at 08:16:30 am CST
        
        Re:Aaaaaaand · zvelf · Sun Mar 04, 2018 at 07:46:35 pm CST
        
        Re:You're Still Missing A Few Things. · Comicguy1 · Mon Mar 05, 2018 at 08:08:52 pm CST
        
        Re:You're Still Missing A Few Things. · zvelf · Tue Mar 06, 2018 at 12:38:24 pm CST
        
        Re:A Few Things. · Comicguy1 · Tue Mar 06, 2018 at 06:28:39 pm CST
        
        Re:A Few Things. · zvelf · Wed Mar 07, 2018 at 07:17:09 pm CST
        
        Re: OOOOOOOOOHHH , Boooyyy! · Comicguy1 · Fri Mar 09, 2018 at 11:43:00 am CST
        
        Re: OOOOOOOOOHHH , Boooyyy! · zvelf · Mon Mar 12, 2018 at 03:47:35 pm CDT
        
        Re:A Few Things. · bd2999 · Wed Mar 07, 2018 at 09:53:19 am CST
        
        Re: The Link Won't Work, Here Is The Article. · Comicguy1 · Thu Feb 22, 2018 at 04:34:39 pm CST
        
        Re: The Link Won't Work, Here Is The Article. · zvelf · Thu Feb 22, 2018 at 05:19:33 pm CST
        
        Re: You Do Know That OBAMA Ordered This Study Done, Don't You? · Comicguy1 · Thu Feb 22, 2018 at 05:40:56 pm CST
        
        Re: You Do Know That OBAMA Ordered This Study Done, Don't You? · bd2999 · Tue Feb 27, 2018 at 02:33:20 pm CST
        
        Re: Private Research. · Comicguy1 · Tue Feb 27, 2018 at 07:09:05 pm CST
        
        The CDC actually does many studies regarding health... · bd2999 · Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 01:41:55 pm CST
        
        Re: You Do Know That OBAMA Ordered This Study Done, Don't You? · zvelf · Thu Feb 22, 2018 at 08:19:23 pm CST
        
        Re: Because They're The Center For DISEASE Control. · Comicguy1 · Thu Feb 22, 2018 at 09:13:28 pm CST
        
        Re: Because They're The Center For DISEASE Control. · zvelf · Thu Feb 22, 2018 at 10:23:12 pm CST
        
        Re: Sigh! · Comicguy1 · Fri Feb 23, 2018 at 07:15:35 pm CST
        
        Re: Sigh! · zvelf · Sat Feb 24, 2018 at 06:50:37 am CST
        
        Re: I Didn't Say That It Was A Good Thing · Comicguy1 · Sat Feb 24, 2018 at 08:38:52 pm CST
        
        Re: I Didn't Say That It Was A Good Thing · zvelf · Sun Feb 25, 2018 at 04:16:05 pm CST
        
        Re: 3 Million Sounds Pretty Defensive To Me. · Comicguy1 · Mon Feb 26, 2018 at 11:25:57 am CST
        
        Re: 3 Million Sounds Pretty Defensive To Me. · zvelf · Mon Feb 26, 2018 at 11:59:57 am CST
        
        Re: 3 Million Sounds Pretty Defensive To Me. · bd2999 · Tue Feb 27, 2018 at 02:35:59 pm CST
        
        Re: Lutz? · Comicguy1 · Tue Feb 27, 2018 at 07:10:52 pm CST
        
        I butchered the name... · bd2999 · Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 01:44:14 pm CST
        
        Re: Oh, John LOTT! · Comicguy1 · Thu Mar 01, 2018 at 12:57:12 pm CST
        
        Re: Oh, John LOTT! · bd2999 · Mon Mar 12, 2018 at 10:06:36 am CDT
        
        Re: Kind Of A Logical Fallacy. · Comicguy1 · Tue Mar 13, 2018 at 02:04:04 pm CDT
        
        Re: AAAAAnd! · Comicguy1 · Thu Feb 22, 2018 at 04:37:25 pm CST
- Re: The solution · zvelf · Thu Feb 15, 2018 at 11:49:24 am CST
  - Re: The solution · dblackstar2002 The Solution · Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 08:34:17 am CST
    - Re: Because They're Not Just Made For ONE Thing (War.). · Comicguy1 · Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 09:14:34 am CST
      - Re: Because They're Not Just Made For ONE Thing (War.). · Would be Watcher · Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 02:19:03 pm CST
        
        Re: I'm Sorry, But This Whole Thing Is Ridiculous! · Comicguy1 · Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 06:57:46 pm CST
        
        Re: I'm Sorry, But This Whole Thing Is Ridiculous! · Would be Watcher · Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 07:44:55 pm CST
        
        Re: You're Confusing Something. · Comicguy1 · Tue Feb 20, 2018 at 04:59:17 pm CST
        
        Re: You're Confusing Something. · Would be Watcher · Tue Feb 20, 2018 at 06:35:38 pm CST
        
        Re: Because They're Not Just Made For ONE Thing (War.). · atrimus · Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 04:57:56 pm CST
        
        Re: Because They're Not Just Made For ONE Thing (War.). · Would be Watcher · Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 05:20:21 pm CST
  - Re: The solution · Paladin · Thu Feb 15, 2018 at 02:07:03 pm CST
- Re: I Just Did This Post. But The Problem Is · Comicguy1 · Thu Feb 15, 2018 at 11:43:28 am CST
  - Re: I Just Did This Post. But The Problem Is · bd2999 · Thu Feb 15, 2018 at 02:43:17 pm CST
    - Re: Assault Ban, And Clinton. · Comicguy1 · Fri Feb 16, 2018 at 05:14:47 pm CST
      - Re: Assault Ban, And Clinton. · bd2999 · Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 07:58:13 am CST
    - Just as an aside matter.... · MysteryMan · Fri Feb 16, 2018 at 07:26:55 am CST
      - Re: Just as an aside matter.... · bd2999 · Fri Feb 16, 2018 at 08:42:10 am CST
- Re: Florida · Would be Watcher · Thu Feb 15, 2018 at 10:50:56 am CST
  - Re: Not Really, Because · Comicguy1 · Thu Feb 15, 2018 at 11:46:08 am CST
    - Re: Not Really, Because · dblackstar2002 Not true · Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 08:41:28 am CST
      - Re: Many Variables. · Comicguy1 · Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 09:17:35 am CST
    - Re: Not Really, Because · zvelf · Thu Feb 15, 2018 at 08:09:20 pm CST
      - Re: It's Still An Inability To Enforce Existing Gun Laws. · Comicguy1 · Fri Feb 16, 2018 at 05:20:15 pm CST
        
        Re: Your single data point is too small and misleading · zvelf · Fri Feb 16, 2018 at 11:33:42 pm CST
        
        Re: That Doesn't Necessarily Have To Do With The LAWS, Though. · Comicguy1 · Sat Feb 17, 2018 at 01:13:50 pm CST
        
        This is sort of moving the goalpost a bit... · bd2999 · Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 08:05:24 am CST
        
        Re: Seriously? · Comicguy1 · Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 09:25:31 am CST
        
        This is again, changing topic... · bd2999 · Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 02:30:54 pm CST
        
        Re: That Doesn't Necessarily Have To Do With The LAWS, Though. · zvelf · Sat Feb 17, 2018 at 03:27:09 pm CST
        
        Re: You're Missing The Point, Though. · Comicguy1 · Sat Feb 17, 2018 at 04:36:39 pm CST
        
        Re: You're Missing The Point, Though. · bd2999 · Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 08:07:26 am CST
        
        Re: I Didn't Say That I Was "Cool" With Suicide. · Comicguy1 · Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 09:32:12 am CST
        
        Re: I Didn't Say That I Was "Cool" With Suicide. · bd2999 · Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 02:35:35 pm CST
        
        Re:Um. · Comicguy1 · Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 07:25:50 pm CST
        
        Re: You're Missing The Point, Though. · zvelf · Sat Feb 17, 2018 at 11:39:56 pm CST
        
        Re: Actually, Violent Crime Has Been On The Decline For Quite Some Time. · Comicguy1 · Sun Feb 18, 2018 at 10:34:26 am CST
        
        Re: Actually, Violent Crime Has Been On The Decline For Quite Some Time. · zvelf · Sun Feb 18, 2018 at 05:47:06 pm CST
        
        Re: Actually, Violent Crime Has Been On The Decline For Quite Some Time. · bd2999 · Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 08:09:19 am CST
    - Re: Not Really, Because · bd2999 · Thu Feb 15, 2018 at 02:47:08 pm CST
    - Re: Not Really, Because · Would be Watcher · Thu Feb 15, 2018 at 02:09:50 pm CST
      - Re: Not Really, Because · bd2999 · Thu Feb 15, 2018 at 02:49:04 pm CST
        
        Re: Not Really, Because · MysteryMan · Fri Feb 16, 2018 at 07:30:43 am CST
        
        Re: Not Really, Because · Would be Watcher · Fri Feb 16, 2018 at 10:50:53 am CST
        
        Re: The Argument Is Made In Cases Like This Because · Comicguy1 · Fri Feb 16, 2018 at 05:27:26 pm CST
        
        Re: The Argument Is Made In Cases Like This Because · The Black Guardian · Sun Feb 18, 2018 at 03:57:41 pm CST
        
        Re: Not Really. · Comicguy1 · Sun Feb 18, 2018 at 05:11:07 pm CST
        
        Re: The Argument Is Made In Cases Like This Because · Would be Watcher · Fri Feb 16, 2018 at 10:29:32 pm CST
        
        Re: You Have To Get A Background Check, And There Is A Wait Period. · Comicguy1 · Sat Feb 17, 2018 at 01:21:20 pm CST
        
        Re: You Have To Get A Background Check, And There Is A Wait Period. · bd2999 · Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 02:38:52 pm CST
        
        Not quite sure the catr anal;ogy works · MysteryMan · Wed Feb 21, 2018 at 08:50:16 am CST
        
        Re: Exactly. Mass Homicides Have Been Carried Out With Cars And Trucks. · Comicguy1 · Wed Feb 21, 2018 at 09:01:10 am CST
        lmao...I cannot correct spelling in my own post because I get spam message · MysteryMan · Wed Feb 21, 2018 at 08:51:12 am CST
        
        Re: The Gun Show Loophole Is Really Not That Prevalent. · Comicguy1 · Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 07:02:47 pm CST
        
        Re: Not Really, Because · bd2999 · Fri Feb 16, 2018 at 08:48:50 am CST
        
        Re: The Gun Age Is Restricted As Well. · Comicguy1 · Fri Feb 16, 2018 at 05:34:00 pm CST
        
        Re: The Gun Age Is Restricted As Well. · bd2999 · Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 08:01:15 am CST
        
        Re: That's Not Too Common. · Comicguy1 · Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 10:06:39 am CST
        
        Re: That's Not Too Common. · bd2999 · Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 02:42:59 pm CST
        
        Most people compare US state by state, how about we compare gun control country by country · Bk Ray · Fri Feb 16, 2018 at 12:18:02 pm CST
        
        Re: Most people compare US state by state, how about we compare gun control country by country · bd2999 · Fri Feb 16, 2018 at 12:25:37 pm CST
        
        Re: How Are Cops Going To Get Guns If They're Removed From Circulation? · Comicguy1 · Fri Feb 16, 2018 at 05:47:03 pm CST
        
        I think you are getting a bit ridiculous... · bd2999 · Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 07:57:04 am CST
        
        Re: Have You Not Researched Washington? · Comicguy1 · Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 09:57:44 am CST
        
        Re: Have You Not Researched Washington? · bd2999 · Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 02:45:56 pm CST
        
        Re: Actually, Under Obama. · Comicguy1 · Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 07:07:17 pm CST
        
        I am confused as to what point this makes... · bd2999 · Tue Feb 20, 2018 at 10:31:45 am CST
        
        Re:Whatever The Reason · Comicguy1 · Tue Feb 20, 2018 at 04:49:55 pm CST
- Re: Florida · bd2999 · Thu Feb 15, 2018 at 10:38:45 am CST
- Re: Florida · The Black Guardian · Thu Feb 15, 2018 at 08:54:48 am CST
  - Re: Florida · bd2999 · Thu Feb 15, 2018 at 10:36:11 am CST
    - Re: Florida · The Black Guardian · Thu Feb 15, 2018 at 04:32:16 pm CST
  - and this might well be a compromise · Bk Ray · Thu Feb 15, 2018 at 09:27:02 am CST
- Not sure I dissagree but there is one thing people always forget... · MysteryMan · Thu Feb 15, 2018 at 07:09:10 am CST
  - Re: Not sure I dissagree but there is one thing people always forget... · bd2999 · Thu Feb 15, 2018 at 10:30:34 am CST
    - Re: Not sure I dissagree but there is one thing people always forget... · MysteryMan · Thu Feb 15, 2018 at 12:10:18 pm CST
      - Re: Not sure I dissagree but there is one thing people always forget... · bd2999 · Thu Feb 15, 2018 at 02:39:24 pm CST
      - Using the UK as an example · Bk Ray · Thu Feb 15, 2018 at 02:18:24 pm CST
        
        Re: Using the UK as an example · MysteryMan · Fri Feb 16, 2018 at 07:24:44 am CST
        
        Re: Using the UK as an example · Bk Ray · Fri Feb 16, 2018 at 03:38:35 pm CST
  - Re: Not sure I dissagree but there is one thing people always forget... · atrimus · Thu Feb 15, 2018 at 09:11:21 am CST
    - Re: That's The Fault Of MANY People, Though! · Comicguy1 · Thu Feb 15, 2018 at 12:34:29 pm CST
    - Re: Not sure I dissagree but there is one thing people always forget... · bd2999 · Thu Feb 15, 2018 at 10:31:34 am CST
    - It is something in the psyche · Bk Ray · Thu Feb 15, 2018 at 09:30:07 am CST
      - Re: It is something in the psyche · MysteryMan · Thu Feb 15, 2018 at 12:02:10 pm CST
  - Re: Not sure I dissagree but there is one thing people always forget... · The Black Guardian · Thu Feb 15, 2018 at 08:56:14 am CST
    - Re: Not sure I dissagree but there is one thing people always forget... · bd2999 · Thu Feb 15, 2018 at 10:34:12 am CST