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Subj: Re: You're Missing The Point, Though.
Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 at 05:36:39 pm EST (Viewed 818 times)
Reply Subj: Re: That Doesn't Necessarily Have To Do With The LAWS, Though.
Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 at 04:27:09 pm EST (Viewed 657 times)

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     Given as most of the guns are obtained illegally (Or in Chicago is due mostly to gang violence, gangs don't obtain their guns lawfully.). Also, suicides are the majority of gun deaths. Homicides are thirds after accidents. And again, it doesn't all have to do with the laws. California has tough gun laws but they still had  that big mass shooting not that long ago.

All you're doing is pointing out exceptions to the rule. You point out one incident in California while ignoring the FAR more important data point that California has one of the lowest rates of gun deaths. And why does it matter if more gun deaths are by suicide than by homicide? It's still a death. Sociological studies have shown that people are far less likely to commit suicide if they don't have an immediate means available to them, a means which a gun provides. The data is irrefutable. Easy availability of guns = more gun deaths. It's common sense. If there are no guns, there can be no gun deaths.

 If there is more ANYTHING, there's more death! If there are more cars, there are more deaths. If there's more alcohol, there are more deaths. Duh, that's just a given! Causation and correlation are two different things.  And it is very important that most gun deaths are not due to mass shootings or homicides, because in that case the law was followed and that doesn't show the strength or weakness of a given law. Also, suicide is not good, but it's not a crime. Even if you're against suicide in all circumstances without any exceptions, it's still a person's right. Homicide is not. 

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