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Subj: Re: I Didn't Say That I Was "Cool" With Suicide.
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 03:35:35 pm EST (Viewed 403 times)
Reply Subj: Re: I Didn't Say That I Was "Cool" With Suicide.
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 at 10:32:12 am EST (Viewed 377 times)
Quote:Suicide is obviously a bad thing, and I do think that people who want to kill themselves should be discouraged from doing so or attempting so in most circumstances. Sometimes there are viable alternatives to ending someone's pain that don't involve suicide, sometimes there are not. But suicide is not a crime, and they don't charge or prosecute you for suicide (Especially if you're dead.) or suicide attempts. So, yes, it's not good, but it's not a crime.
Also, I'm not protecting guns. I don't really care for guns, but clearly a lot of people can handle them just fine (Like alcohol.) and they do serve many other uses aside from violent ones.
I am confused then why you are arguing it away like it does not matter with some of the statistics though. The likelihood of suicide attempt resulting in death is vastly increased using a gun.
Just because alot of people can handle them fine does not mean that they should be freely available either. I am sure most people could have a nuke in their backyard and never set it off.
Laws, in general, are set to the lowest common denominator. If it inconveniences the fellow just wanting to buy a gun than so be it.
I just do not buy in that much that because some people can use something responsibly means that it can always be used responsibly. A gun greatly enhances the ability to hurt other people.
And it starts to become a matter of when would enough be enough. Do most people with a gun collection hurt anybody? No, they do not. But we know that guns make many situations worse. And increase bad outcomes. Somebody in an abusive relationship for instance is more likely to be killed if the abuser has a gun. Could they die other ways, sure, but whenever we are talking in reality it is about probability.
Is the fact that I act responsible with alcohol going to stop that drunk driver slamming into my car and doing general bad things? It was no decision of mine.
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