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Subj: Re:Whatever The Reason
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 at 05:49:55 pm EST (Viewed 749 times)
Reply Subj: I am confused as to what point this makes...
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 at 11:31:45 am EST (Viewed 695 times)

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    Gun sales went UP! Waaaayyy up! Obama himself said that he was pretty much good for gun sales. Trump isn't doing anything about guns one way or another, so people don't have to worry about any restrictions or laws passing. Usually if you tell people NOT to do something, they're more inclined to do it (Remember the "Just say no." campaigns?). But the point still remains that violent crime in Washington didn't go UP, like people thought that it would.

are you trying to make the claim that Obama's policies had to do with that? Seems more likely it was the NRA, conservative groups and politicians saying that Obama was going to take away every bodies guns every chance.

This happened with Clinton too and looks to be a modern pattern with a Dem president.

I suppose, but I am not talking about outlawing guns. So the point you are bringing up is a bit of a straw man here.

And that is true that it did not spike up, but it is also true that violent crime has been coming down in all areas for a while. That does not mean we should stop trying to get it lower and reduce things more either.

Obama never wanted to take everybodies guns but given how he was made out by those on the right he had a secret police force to do just that.

No, I din't blame his policies at all, but usually when politicians talk about gun restrictions and the like, that's usually when people start to buy and when gun sales go up. Trump hasn't been good for gun sales at all, probably because he's not demonizing guns or talking about restrictions. Also, I didn't say that you were talking about outlawing guns, this was relating to the BAN that they had on Assault Rifles!

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