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Reply Subj: Re: No, Ridiculous. Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 at 08:04:17 pm EST (Viewed 535 times) | |||||||
Quote: Quote: The point that you're completely missing is that your "cure" is worse than the "disease." The obvious corollary to your point is to arm people in these places for self-defense, right? What else would be your point? Of course we just found out that there was an armed security guard at the Florida school shooting and the armed guard neither deterred the shooting in the first place nor stopped the shooter. Quote: Quote: Your solution to gun violence is to arm everywhere like police stations? Greaaaat. Then what's your solution? Quote: Quote: And what's wrong with that? Your entire argument consists of privileging ownership of guns over the fact that 30,000+ Americans die from guns every year, a rate far, far higher than any first world country. Is gun ownership worth that to you? 80+ lives a day? Because gun bans do work elsewhere. You yourself stated earlier that if there were very few guns, there be far fewer instances of gun violence. Handguns are banned in Japan. Japan has more than one third the population of the United States. Japan had 6 gun deaths in 2014. The United States had 33,599!!! http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-38365729 Also, drugs aren't guns. I'm for legalizing marijuana and regulating it. I am also for heavily regulating guns, not completely banning them. Quote: Also, you're being disingenious when you say priviledged gun ownership, guns have been legal for Centuries. I have no idea what you're talking about here. Quote: And most of those 30,000 deaths are not homicides, most are suicides (Suicide is not a crime.) and many of them are self-defense or accidents. And yes, just because people MISUSE guns doesn't mean that other people can't or shouldn't have them. Alcohol kills thousands per year too, but there's no hatred for that.First, of course there is hatred for the deaths caused by alcohol. It's not a coincidence that Mothers Against Drunk Driving uses the acronym MADD. Alcohol is also pretty heavily regulated. You can't drink until 21 however you can buy guns before age 21. There are obviously strict laws against driving while drunk. And of course people misusing guns is a perfectly legitimate reason for other people not having them. If most people had a nuclear weapon, they probably wouldn't misuse it either, but that's not a reason that people should be able to get their hands on a nuclear weapon. If products are easily misused, then they are defective. All you are arguing here is that widespread gun ownership is worth over 30,000 people dying every year. How to make an entrance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfMiOlIUGQw | |||||||
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