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Subj: Re: Florida - would you go in?
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 at 12:53:11 pm EST (Viewed 701 times)
Reply Subj: Florida - would you go in?
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 at 06:52:56 am EST (Viewed 773 times)

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Trump, who dodged the vietnam draft and was spooked every time he has looked in danger, said he would go in 'without question'.

It's a tricky question. If I had no weapon and my daughter or niece was in the school, then yeah, I would go in, but without trying to confront the shooter, just trying to extract my daughter or niece and get out.

With a revolver, I would have felt I had to. I was speaking to my friend about this. A lone gunman with an automatic rifle, isn't going to be using marksmanship principles, he isn't going to be taking up positions, he is going to be presumably open, his stances are going to be too sh!t. He is going to be a predator without being used to moving targets etc. I think it is realistic that someone with, say a 9mm who knows what they are doing has maybe a 60% -70% of winning that encounter (remember the shooter still has better knowledge of the school, if Peterson is still too scared to go in). Not great odds, admittedly. If you are being deliberately cautious, then maybe 70% to 80%.


I would not, I may consider it if I had family in there, but it is a good way of getting myself killed along with more people. I do not have training to do much of anything. Me going in, armed or not, is pretty much expecting a lucky break or shot to save the day.

The probability of that, with fear, is pretty low. I would rather call the police and let them deal with it.

The only way I could see me doing or attempting much of anything was if I was already there, was trapped (alone or more likely with others) and the person was trying to get in. At that point, it is do or die and what do you have to lose?

Other than that, I am not going to try and be an action hero. Even if I am in that situation I am running or hiding. I would like to think I try to help some others get out if it is safe for us to go but that is probably the extent of my heroism.

I have found the trend of some, to blame the male students for not attacking the guy to be sad. It is coming from a hyper macho crowd and is sexist in its own way. Just because one is male does not grant you super powers and the ability to overcome fear at will. Some people have more of that drive than others, but there were many acts of heroics there. And those people showed more humanity than the clowns spouting off. People should be ashamed of themselves and their views of these things.

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