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Subj: Re: Oh, John LOTT!
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 at 01:57:12 pm EST (Viewed 716 times)
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    Who is Lutz? Not many gun owners who obtained their guns legally are involved in crime. Self-defense is not always reported, either.

I meant Lott, as in John Lott.

I would like to see where you are getting your statistics. As a percentage I imagine it is much higher than things like knives etc. Most of the folks in mass shootings have purchased the guns legally despite having varying red flags. Which points to a need to reform the system a fair bit.

And it is not always reported, but it takes a bit of a stretch of the imagination to imagine that it is more than double or so the amount of reported crime. Seems to me that would be captured in the statistics everybody else seems to be using.

 Yeah, he has done a lot of research, and he did a popular book called More Guns, Less Crime. I never said that knives top guns. Yes, most of the folks who legally purchased guns were NOT criminals at the time. And a lot of the kids stole the guns (The Sandy Hook shooter took it from his mother, who he killed.), as some of them clearly weren't old enough to purchase them themselves.  But yes, the red flags definitely SHOULD have made it harder to get the guns. In the recent Florida school shooting, it was reported that the cops went to the suspect's house 39 times. It sounds like law enforcement has a LOT to answer for with that one. So, yes, reform is needed. BUT at the same time, you can't penalize responsible gun owners for that.

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