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Subj: Re: They Do Acknowledge It.
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 at 12:18:16 pm EDT (Viewed 624 times)
Reply Subj: Re: The Gender Wage Gap Is Not Due To Sexism. It's An Earnings Gap! I Think That This Is Important To Share.
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 at 10:36:03 pm EDT (Viewed 681 times)

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    How is one article propagating spiel, but the other is acceptable? You could almost switch articles between the two sites, they are so similar.

Except that AEI does not acknowledge that there is still a pay gap as well.


      Basically studies show when factors are the same for both genders, women tend to still lag behind and on average get paid about 93%-95% of what men do. Women have done a lot of catching up with men, but there are a lot of industries in which women are paid less than men for doing the same work or just aren't hired. Take the film industry, which is largely run by men. Only about 10% of feature film directors are women. Or you get Mark Wahlberg getting paid $1.5 million for reshoots and Michelle Williams getting paid $1,000 for the same thing. Women are catching up, but they aren't quite there yet.
    To attribute the Mark Wahlberg/Michelle Williams story to sexism, and to link it to "Women are catching up, but they aren't quite there yet" just shows your complete lack of knowledge regarding the details of the situation. It's also shows your lack of effort to understand other reasons behind pay differences. You're stuck on the old women-being-held-down-by-men story, that you're ignoring simple facts.

Nope. You're clearly the ignorant one here. I've worked in the film industry.

    Mark Wahlberg is a mega star in Hollywood. He has the clout to demand that type of clause in his contract. While Michelle Williams is best known for that Dawson's Creek tv show from 20 years ago.

Wrong. Michelle Williams is one of the most critically acclaimed and well-respected actresses in Hollywood and is known for great performances in independent pictures like Brokeback Mountain, Wendy and Lucy, Blue Valentine, and Manchester by the Sea. Comparing her to Mark Wahlberg is like comparing Kate Winslet to Adam Sandler.

    Either she doesn't have the same clout, or she has a management team not as smart as Wahlberg's (possibly both).

Wrong again. They are represented by the same agency!

    There is zero evidence the pay difference had anything to do with one being a man, and the other a woman.

Wrong. Wahlberg and Williams are represented by the same talent agency, which went to bat for Wahlberg but not Williams.

    Imagine a movie staring Meryl Streep needed as big of a re-shoot as All The Money In The World. Now imagine the movie also included the blonde guy from Dawson's Creek. Who do you think would be likely to get more money for a re-shoot? Meryl Streep or Dawson? I'm asking for an answer. Who do you think would get paid more for re-shoots?

Your analogy doesn't work because Michelle Williams approaches the caliber of Streep.

    I'd guess Meryl Streep. Not because of sexism, but because she is a bigger star, who can demand more money.

Wahlberg recognized the injustice and gave that money to the Time's Up movement.

They just use different wording.

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