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Subj: Re: US out of the Iran nuclear deal
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 at 02:10:18 pm CDT (Viewed 889 times)
Reply Subj: US out of the Iran nuclear deal
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 at 12:57:46 pm CDT (Viewed 1159 times)

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It seems that Trump plans to announce the US's withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal later today.

I haven't read the full details of the deal myself, but it's hard not to view it as a questionable decision based solely on the fact that it places us at stark odds with pretty much all of our major allies.

It is a pretty terrible decision on nearly every level. By all accounts it appears to be working as intended. It also shows that if you make a deal with the US that the US is not trustworthy. Iran has not violated the agreement.

Trump is backing out of it because he does not like the agreement, which means the US is violating the agreement. Given many other countries are onboard with it, it is one reason it took so long to get, that this creates a shift. Economic sanctions would hit allies at the same time. Meaning they would have no reason to stay in the deal. Meaning Iran would have no reason to stay in either. Meaning Iran could ramp up attempts without any oversight or accountability by the international community.

This is a majorly stupid move. Even by Trump standards and is what you get when you are surrounded by yes men that hated the deal from the start. Iran showed no interest in negotiating again anyway but at least staying in and trying to get things made more sense than this credibility destroyer. This would hurt the US in North Korea, potentially, and really any country could point to it as a reason not to deal with the US.

Just very stupid.

The deal, as I understand it (to address your point) did the following:

1. Reduced the number of centrifuges capable of enriching uranium. And only allowed the least capable of making weapons grade uranium to remain. I do not recall the numbers.

2. It required Iran to give up enriched uranium above 3.something percent. 90% or so is needed for a weapon.

3. It opened Iran to inspectors from an independent atomic regulatory body that ensured they were in compliance with the deal.

For all of this, sanctions would be lifted on Iran. The first part went away after 10 years, the second part 5 years after that and the last part was permanent.

From reports Trump wanted the first two parts made permanent. Otherwise what he wants is the same (yet he calls this the worst deal ever). I imagine that the US initially wanted all of this to be permanent but to get Iran and other countries involved to give it more force they need to give and take.

This is just potentially allowing Iran to get a nuke and potentially destabilize the region even more. From most accounts, most Iran hawks seem to be complaining that this agreement did not address each and every problem the US had with Iran.

Which was never its point in the first place.

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