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zvelf

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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Dragon Red

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Subj: Re: Atheist turned believer
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 at 06:31:05 pm CDT (Viewed 785 times)
Reply Subj: Atheist turned believer
Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 at 04:03:35 pm CDT (Viewed 873 times)



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    For the most part, but I respect the heck out of people who admit they are religious, after all, its not "cool" nowadays to be religious.


Really? I'd like to know where you live where that's the common perception. Because I'm from Arkansas and it's far harder to be an atheist there than it is to be religious. I'd say that's true not only for any state in the Bible belt, but any red state in the U.S.


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    So for the longest time I was an atheist and a devout one at that. Any body who wasted their time believing in a God or Gods was an absolute fool I felt. Suffice to say some very bad shit happened, and that changed my mind a complete 180. Because the horror of simply accepting that when we die we are just worm food, or dust, depending on your preferred method of body disposal was absolutely mortifying.


Then you're not using reason to choose, you're choosing your reasons, which is not how you get at truth.


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    The descriptions in religion may be wrong but the principle... who knows?


As Ancient One pointed out, insofar as there is evidence, science knows. Now, you don't have to believe in evidence and can believe in whatever you want just because that makes you feel better, but don't mistake that for reality or at least the closest we can get to reality.


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    Many people have near death experiences, and when they come back they explain they saw their great uncle Jeff who has been dead for 50 years etc... they get told they were hallucinating or in a state of delirium or just outright dreaming and nobody believes them. Very sad that. Or perhaps, they don't want to believe it because believing it would open them up to too many scary possibilities they'd rather not face and simple denial of the possibility is much easier.


No, that's not how it works. If someone comes back from a near-death experience saying they met Buddha, are you suddenly going to start believing in Buddha? If you're now believing in Buddha and someone else wakes from a near-death experience saying they met Odin, are you going to start believing in Odin as well as Buddha too? You can see the absurdity this leads to, right? Basically, people need a reason to believe in something, not a reason to have a lack of belief.


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    Atheism is the easy option from my point of view, you don't have to work at it at all.


What does "ease" have to do with truth? I can look outside and see whether it's raining. Because it's "easy" am I not supposed to go with direct evidence?





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