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zvelf

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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Sumidor

Member Since: Sat Feb 25, 2017
Subj: Re: US out of the Iran nuclear deal
Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 at 12:29:37 pm EDT (Viewed 749 times)
Reply Subj: Re: US out of the Iran nuclear deal
Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 at 12:05:01 am EDT (Viewed 853 times)



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    When Obama broke the agreement with Poland and the Czech Republic for the missile defense technology Bush had negotiated, you had no outrage. There is no post from you declaring that Obama is showing the world that the US is not trustworthy. From one Czech lawmaker, "If the Administration approaches us in the future with any request, I would be strongly against it." No post from you about the US going against its allies.


Whataboutism, what you always go to as if previous mistakes (if it's even that) makes a current mistake okay. That's right, Obama weighed breaking the word of the U.S. to other considerations that Robert Gates, the person who recommended the missile defense to Bush in the first place and then changed his mind, explained here:

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/opinion/20gates.html

In any case, that agreement is minor compared to the Iran deal which was agreed to by Iran, the U.S., and the other five most powerful nations on Earth.


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    Gaddafi gave up his WMD arsenal during the Bush administration, and agreed to let weapons inspectors into Libya to help dismantle its chemical and nuclear weapons programs. This was done with the understanding that those countries sending inspectors wouldn't then invade Libya and force him out of power once he disarmed. When the Obama administration did exactly that, where was your frustration? I've seen nothing from you exclaiming that such actions by the US discourage North Korea from halting its nuclear weapons program.


This is reducing a very complex scenario into what you want it to be about. Gaddafi giving up his weapons has nothing to do with NATO strikes due to Libyan Civil War crimes. That's like saying that because Iran agreed not to produce nuclear weapons, they are immune to attack if they attacked Israel. It's nonsense.


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    Very similar behaviors by Obama and Trump.


They are only similar if you completely take out the context. None of what you say matters anyway because even if Obama was wrong, that doesn't make Trump right.






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