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Sumidor

Member Since: Sat Feb 25, 2017
In Reply To
zvelf

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
Subj: Re: US out of the Iran nuclear deal
Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 at 12:23:15 am CDT (Viewed 766 times)
Reply Subj: Re: US out of the Iran nuclear deal
Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 at 11:08:58 am CDT (Viewed 776 times)



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    This is entirely besides the point of whether Trump should have done it. A poll of 1,541 experts on international relations, 94% think Trump made the wrong choice. No one is saying Trump doesn't have the right to do it. Your defense is not a defense.


For some reason when I reply, all but the prior post is dropping off. I might be doing something wrong. For the record, I am not trying to purposefully clip your arguments.

The only part of your initial post I replied to was your statement: "Trump is making clear that U.S. agreements are worthless. If a new administration is just going to override a previous administration, then how can anyone trust the U.S.? Why should North Korea negotiate with the U.S. if the U.S. won't honor our previous agreements?"

So my first point is...you feel strongly that Trump exiting an executive agreement made between the previous president and a foreign nation makes it clear that US agreements are worthless. If that's so, then why would a perception of trust exist to begin with after Obama exited the executive agreements Bush made with foreign nations? I'm not attacking Obama, I'm attacking your argument. There is no trust to shatter if the same trust-shattering actions have been on display by previous administrations.

My second point is...to answer your question: if Trump passes an agreement with NK through the senate and ratifies it as a legally binding treaty, then NK can trust that the treaty will not be easily broken by a subsequent administration. I'm not saying that will happen. I'm offering a suggestion to your question. Executive agreements should not be trusted, treaties should be. There is a very big difference, and it's important that the difference is taken into account when discussing these issues.





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