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zvelf

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Subj: Re: US out of the Iran nuclear deal
Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 at 08:14:17 am EDT (Viewed 525 times)
Reply Subj: Re: US out of the Iran nuclear deal
Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 at 08:22:22 pm EDT (Viewed 517 times)

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    Also, you clipped the part of my post in which I asked a direct question. I made it clear the question was not rhetorical, and I believe it is relevant to much of this conversation. I will copy/paste it again below.



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    Here's a question, which I think gets to the heart of the matter. Not a rhetorical question, it's one that I am asking you to answer. Do you think the US President should have the authority to enter into legally binding treaties with foreign nations? Is that power something you trust in the hands of one person, or is it something which is better kept in congress where a more rigorous debate is forced?



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    Do you want Donald Trump to be able to enter into any agreement he wants with other nations, and they are legally binding for all future administrations to follow? I don't. The constitution wasn't written with the most perfect person in mind always holding the office of the president. It was written knowing that the office would be held by flawed men (and Trump is a very flawed man).


No, I do not think Presidents should be allowed to enter legally binding agreements with other countries solely on their own authority. I still don't think it gets to the heart of the matter or is relevant here because I already stated that Trump has the ability to break the deal. It was just stupid to do so.

The thing I would argue is that the SCOTUS has held that these sorts of agreements are allowable. So they would not be unconstitutional by any stretch. There is just more risk with backing out of them if the next administration does not like it. That usually does not happen historically though.

That said, I imagine that this is the sort of agreement Trump will be going for with North Korea if I have to imagine. It is much faster to do than a treaty at any rate, although still slow.

That said, backing out of an agreement made when the other side has not violated the agreement. I am not sure how one justifies that. If one likes the agreement or not is another matter.




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