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Ancient One 
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HammerTime

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Subj: Re: Atheist turned believer
Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 at 10:06:46 pm CDT (Viewed 596 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Atheist turned believer
Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 at 08:29:29 pm CDT (Viewed 824 times)




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    Then you better shake it harder so you understand me better. Grandmothers naturally die all the time, it's not the same pain and desperation as a person's dying kid in the hospital where a quick prayer is instinctual and even atheists will say it "just in case." So I wouldn't expect you to pray for your grandmother was my point because the two situations are totally different. It has nothing to do with the assignment of value to a life. Nice try, though, you can keep digging.


Ah, right, I understand you: You're advocating rationing of prayer for those who deserve it or have a chance of being saved. Nice.

But I'll bring you back to my point. Why WOULDN'T you - as a believer - pray for a dying relative or friend, however old that person may be? It's not the same as having a child die, no, but you seem to be denying that people can feel huge amounts of grief and loss over ANYONE. You can't apply your kind of thinking to grief. It affects everyone differently.



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    54? You act like you're toting a senior citizens card when you have at least 20 years assuming you die from average, natural causes. In fact, the US Census lists the category of middle age from 45 to 65. The point is, you're comfortable feeling that death isn't happening any time soon, so it's easy to make statements that you don't fear death any more than sleep. Easy to say when you're snuggled up in the safety and cocoon of your pajamas and wool blankets.


Well, I apologise if I gave that impression (genuinely). I'm reasonably fit, in reasonably good health, and I'm reasonably active. I certainly don't feel my age. I was just stating facts, and I agree with yours that I probably have about 20 years left. 30 if I'm lucky.

But 20 years is the blink of an eye. I don't know how old you are, but take my word for it, the older you get the quicker time seems to pass. 1998 feels like yesterday to me and the last two decades have been a blur. I fully intend to cram as much as I can into the next 20, but 2038 will be here before you know it.

And - maybe others here of a similar age to me or older will back me up on this - but it's kind of inevitable that the older you get, the more you think about your mortality. I've thought about mine a lot, and while it saddens me, it honestly doesn't frighten me.




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