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Ancient One 

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Subj: Re: Atheist turned believer
Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 at 11:52:15 pm EDT (Viewed 587 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Atheist turned believer
Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 at 11:23:23 pm EDT (Viewed 591 times)

    I wasn't advocating. Deserves has nothing to do with it - I wasn't talking about prayer to save a soul but to save a life while here on earth. If your child is dying of cancer and has only one week to live, I'm quite certain the urge to pray to a deity for an intervention would be WAAAAY higher than praying for an old person's soul who already lived a full life. My point was that if the situation is dire enough, even atheists will hedge their bets and pray.

And I refute that on many levels.

First of all, I'm confining my argument to 'life' too. The idea of a soul is another concept for which there's absolutely no proof - or even evidence.

What about those that don't have children of their own? An ex partner of mine has no maternal instincts whatsoever. She's not keen on children and has chosen not to have any. The lives of her parents and current partner are far more important to her.

There are couples who marry (or otherwise get together) at a very young age, don't have children, and spend decades together with few family or friends. They basically only have each other. Can't you conceive that the life of their spouse or partner is all important to them?

Again, because you can't imagine a life without supernatural intervention by no means mean that there are people who live that life. When ALL gods are equally false to me, which one should I pray to? Allah? Yaweh? Zeus?

Do you ever go walking in the woods? Are you EVER, for one second afraid you're going to be attacked by a werewolf? Do you ever hang cloves of garlic around your bedroom to prevent being bitten by a vampire?

Of course you don't. That would be silly, right?

But has anyone proven to you beyond a shadow of doubt that werewolves and vampires don't exist? I mean, there's evidence for them, yes? So why do you never take precautions against them?

The answer, of course, is that no one's ever proven they DO exist, and the evidence is so crummy and fifth-rate that you never give them a second thought.

And that's the way many people think about ALL supernatural beings, including gods. No one has proven they exist, and the evidence for them is so crummy and fifth-rate that we never give them a second thought.

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