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Subj: Re: Democrat border security solutions
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 at 12:35:40 pm EST (Viewed 221 times)
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/08/government-shutdown-border-wall-democrats-security-solutions/2512363002/

"Democrats have rejected President Donald Trump's border wall as ineffective, expensive and immoral. So what are their solutions to border security? Among them: Better technology. Increased hiring for ports of entry. Improved infrastructure, such as fencing."

So a fence is okay after all, nothing immoral, so long as it's not too tall and easy to climb?








When you see folks like bd2999 give mixed responses that they're for intelligent border security as opposed to open borders, it's just an incremental strategy to arrive at an end goal: open borders.  They'll throw in temporary arguments such as silly wall ineffectiveness, cost issues, racism, etc.--all diversionary tactics of their true ideas.  It's why it's so frustrating to debate them, because you're actually arguing with someone who installs an intentional strawman to beat up on.  They manipulate you into believing there are shared goals, just different ways of getting there.  All the while secretly plotting against the supposed shared goal.  Think about it.  In all the shutdown news, how many arguments have you seen from the democrats that say it's because they want open borders?  Zero.  And yet 36% want open borders as the real reason but disguise their problem as based on immorality, cost, and wall ineffectiveness.  Why else would anyone oppose a mere $5.6 billion in a $1.3 trillion spending package?  It's because they know the wall/barrier will work and block open borders. 

And then you have people like this other guy who frequently posts here (I shall not name him but it rhymes with elf), who I assume is not of the same mentality as bd2999, probably doesn't want open borders (he strikes me as a selfish individual, the typical male feminist who only believes in things for hopes of getting laid), yet actually falls for the democrats' diversionary tactics because he can't see the forest for the trees to understand he's being played.

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/398786-calls-for-open-borders-wind-up-closing-doors-for-democrats

"Troublingly, these views on immigration are not far out of line with the Democratic Party as a whole. In fact, a Harvard Harris poll last month states that a striking 36 percent of Democrats support “basically open borders.”

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USA Today: Forget the wall already, it's time for the U.S. to have open borders

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/07/31/open-borders-help-economy-combat-illegal-immigration-column/862185002/

"The solution to America’s immigration problems is open borders, under which the United States imposes no immigration restrictions at all."





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