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HammerTime

Member Since: Sun Jan 07, 2018
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zvelf

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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Subj: Re: I really do not understand the lack of empathy...
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 at 06:58:23 pm EST (Viewed 178 times)
Reply Subj: Re: I really do not understand the lack of empathy...
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 at 11:41:21 am EST (Viewed 179 times)




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    That's like saying when someone is blackmailed, if they would just give in, the situation would be resolved. Shutting down the government and building a wall are not related issues whatsoever. Trump and the Republicans are the ones making them related. Congress already passed a bipartisan spending bill that would keep the government opened. Trump refused to sign unless Congress adds money for a wall and now Mitch McConnell is refusing to bring any bill up in the Senate until Trump agrees. If a Democratic president shut down the government unless Congress gave $5 billion to Planned Parenthood, would you say Republicans should meet them half way and give Planned Parenthood $2 or $3 billion? What's to keep this from being a tactic used by any president for any issue regardless of how stupid it is?


What's stupid is your lack of awareness that the democrats would do the very thing you're suggesting is stupid and hostage taking. And that yes, in 2015, republicans DID make concessions to avoid a shutdown over Planned Parenthood.

Politico: How Planned Parenthood could shut down the government. A showdown over defunding the group places the federal government in the cross hairs of a partisan shutdown fight this fall.

https://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/government-shut-down-planned-parenthood-120787

NY Times: Asked at a news conference last week if he could guarantee there would be no shutdown over Planned Parenthood, Mr. Boehner replied: “Listen, the goal here is not to shut down the government. The goal is to stop these horrific practices of organizations selling baby parts.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/16/us/with-possible-shutdown-nearing-obama-looks-to-take-budget-fight-to-gop.html

New York Times: No Shutdown Expected on Planned Parenthood (Nov. 30, 2015)

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/01/us/politics/congress-budget-deadline-planned-parenthood.html


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    In any case, Trump and Republicans are being stupid because they are suffering for the shutdown more than Democrats. Numerous polls show that a little over 50% of Americans blame Trump and the GOP while around 30% blame Democrats. Trump's already low approval rating has been trending downward for weeks now.


Remember when the polling all pointed to a Hillary landslide? And anyway, we're two years from the next election, so this doesn't matter that much. #MAGA2020







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