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zvelf

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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HammerTime

Member Since: Sun Jan 07, 2018
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Subj: Re: I really do not understand the lack of empathy...
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 11:03:12 am EST (Viewed 160 times)
Reply Subj: Re: I really do not understand the lack of empathy...
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 at 06:58:23 pm EST (Viewed 157 times)



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      That's like saying when someone is blackmailed, if they would just give in, the situation would be resolved. Shutting down the government and building a wall are not related issues whatsoever. Trump and the Republicans are the ones making them related. Congress already passed a bipartisan spending bill that would keep the government opened. Trump refused to sign unless Congress adds money for a wall and now Mitch McConnell is refusing to bring any bill up in the Senate until Trump agrees. If a Democratic president shut down the government unless Congress gave $5 billion to Planned Parenthood, would you say Republicans should meet them half way and give Planned Parenthood $2 or $3 billion? What's to keep this from being a tactic used by any president for any issue regardless of how stupid it is?



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    What's stupid is your lack of awareness that the democrats would do the very thing you're suggesting is stupid and hostage taking. And that yes, in 2015, republicans DID make concessions to avoid a shutdown over Planned Parenthood.


What's stupid is in how you're totally wrong on this. The GOP was trying to shut down the government to defund Planned Parenthood. It was not the Democrats threatening to shut it down in order to fund Planned Parenthood. 

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      In any case, Trump and Republicans are being stupid because they are suffering for the shutdown more than Democrats. Numerous polls show that a little over 50% of Americans blame Trump and the GOP while around 30% blame Democrats. Trump's already low approval rating has been trending downward for weeks now.



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    Remember when the polling all pointed to a Hillary landslide? And anyway, we're two years from the next election, so this doesn't matter that much. #MAGA2020


Ah, the lack of statistical understanding again. You cite an instance where polling was wrong and so conclude all polling is wrong when the majority of the time, polling is right. Anyway, Hillary didn't have a 20 point lead on Trump. The Dems have a 20 point lead on Trump as to whom is being blamed for the shutdown. In all honesty, it should be much bigger given that Trump took ownership of the shutdown on camera, a move at the time you thought was genius. Now in polling, approval among Trump's most loyal supporters, white males without college degrees, has dropped from 54% to 45% in the past month's time. 60% of Americans oppose the wall.



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