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HammerTime

Member Since: Sun Jan 07, 2018
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zvelf

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
Posts: 10,207
Subj: Re: A fair bit of what you have said is nonsense...
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 at 09:35:54 am EST (Viewed 156 times)
Reply Subj: Re: A fair bit of what you have said is nonsense...
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 at 08:28:36 am EST (Viewed 166 times)




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    You're overgeneralization of 800,000 people is a fail. The 17% increase in job searches is real and your denial of it is just your banging your head against reality.


My point was not whether the job searches were real but rather how meaningful that fact was. I gave a rebuttal and you lost track of the reality of what I was arguing.


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    It says that your self-professed lack of talent includes deluding yourself about who's winning our debates.


That hardly matters when our relationship is sort of like this:

Two backpackers are face to face with a bear, the first (you) says that neither of us can outrun it, so I just reply, "I don't have to be faster than the bear, just you."


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    Uh, no. The full federal budget is not entirely comprised of people's salaries. Far from it.


Beating up on a strawman since you can't beat me? Once again, you lost track of what we were arguing. Previously, you seemed to understand that my calculation was the relationship between federal salaries and the entire federal budget. I never argued against what you now think I did.


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    Even your 1.31% nonsense number is 35% less than your original calculation.




No, it's not. Here's what I said: The federal budget is $4 trillion so $200 million per day is less than 2%.


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    You're totally missing the point. Comparing the money lost to the total federal budget is meaningless because that's just some arbitrary number you picked to minimize what's at stake. Sure, if the entire $4 trillion federal budget was removed from the economy, that would be beyond catastrophic, but removing any significant percentage of that $4 trillion can also be catastrophic.


And I proved it wasn't a significant percentage, so your own argument defeats you for me. Why do you keep hitting yourself?


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        See your lack of math skills. Last year's first quarter showed 2.2% economic growth. 17 weeks of 0.13% contraction would completely wipe that out. We're starting our 5th week now with no signs of the shutdown ending now so we're 30% of the way there.
      First, interpretation of data is not a math skill.



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    LOL! Yes it is. If you can't count, you can't interpret numerical data.


No, it's not. Math skills involve the ability to perform calculations, not interpret calculations someone else did for you. I hate bursting your bubble since your life just got more difficult.


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      Hassett did not provide additional details about the estimates, but added that diminished spending by furloughed employees will be made up once they receive back pay after the shutdown ends, alleviating some of the damage.



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    Yes, "some." But what you're missing is that timing matters. People who are putting everything on their credit cards now have to pay significant interest on that money. And beyond unpaid salaries, the furloughs lead to millions of man-hours of lost productivity. Air travel is now less safe, food is now less safe, federal courts are about to run out of money, national parks are being damaged due to lack of maintenance, federal research with a time element are being ruined, and small businesses are failing to get government loans.


But you were the one arguing that GDP was being catastrophically damaged, remember? I keep reminding you of what we were arguing.






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