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Subj: Re: Karen Pence under attack from the Left
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 at 11:58:33 am EST (Viewed 135 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Karen Pence under attack from the Left
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 at 05:47:55 pm EST (Viewed 233 times)

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    Christian and not permuting of gays are not the same thing.


There's no permuting going on here. There aren't any rights being stripped, it's a private institution for like minded religious practitioners who have very solid reasoning for their position pertaining to gays. Nothing is being sold, this is not a business, and it's strictly volunteer attendance, lol. Frankly, it's scary that you question their rights on this. You use a vague description (i.e., permuting) without any elaboration, a common tactic among liberals.


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    Quaker and Episcopal schools for instance have permitted gay parents and students for decades.


And they're idiots! Haha, how can anyone stay a Christian if their religious text has verses like THIS that they don't believe in?  I'll never understand how anyone can be comfortable with the contradiction; there's only one word to describe it: madness!

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (English Standard Version) - "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.


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    IN catholic and Baptist schools, it sort of depends on the individual school.


And they're weak-minded idiots who can't handle feeling alone without latching onto a conventional religion. Strong-minded people (like me) see the text, and can live with the decision on being all in or all out.

Regardless, if you're all in, the 1st amendment protects you. Christianity is not just some new, minor religion. It's ancient, the most widely practiced, and its views against homosexuality are rooted since 2,000 years ago.


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    Stating that parents have to be male and female isn't moral. It is at best neutral.


That's arguable between the religious and non-religious.


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    While it is irrelevant, since her husband is the politician. However her husband is a politician. A public figure.

    What's more, they presumably have shared values, unless otherwise stated, and he is a heartbeat away form the most powerful office in the land.


So what? He hasn't broken any laws and is fully protected by the 1st amendment. In other words, he's perfectly law-abiding according to the United States Constitution, so his religious views are irrelevant.


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    Those beliefs are fair game for teh knowledge of the American people.


Fair game in the sense that voters get to choose who they want as president. But attacking the rights of a religious institution for just practicing what its religious text says is right and wrong? That's not fair game.


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    Personally, I though the wife must submit to the husband thing way werider


It's a Bible thing.


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    No one is infringing on their religious beliefs. They are stating what they MAY be.


They are. They're saying that Pence's church has no right to discriminate against LGBTQ, and they define the "discrimination" as the church not allowing LGBTQ to be faculty members or part of the student body.


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    Finally...
    If you will look on the CNN site, it is in the opinion section.


True, along with the rest of CNN's site which is one giant opinion section. #fakenews


No. Schools (none of them) are permitted to discriminate. For instance, a Catholic school must accept Jews, Muslims, etc.




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