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Subj: Re: It may be a worthy discussion [My instinct is to keep it]
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 at 08:25:29 am CST (Viewed 215 times)
Reply Subj: It may be a worthy discussion [My instinct is to keep it]
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 at 10:14:02 am CST (Viewed 267 times)

    The great compromise of a House and a Senate was pretty much used to get the colonies to be "united" states in the first place. Now that the Civil War has answered the question of succession, it's not irrational to question the need for the Senate.

    One of [but far from the only] reason why one would settle on dual sovereignty of the states vs federal government at the time was the limits on communication technology.

    With the ever expanding powers of the Federal Government the power/rights of the State [and the people] have inevitably contracted, perhaps to the point where the State is meaningless anyways.

    Debates about States rights are now practically a fringe position, and anyone who is not fascinated by politics likely is unaware in this first place. Heck with the number of people who only vote in presidential elections [and don't even vote down card] perhaps abolishing the very concept of State's right isn't off the table.


    Now that I've played devil's advocate for a moment I am a big Proponent of States rights and I prefer the 50(+) laboratory approach. I'd like the conversation to be about abolishing Federal departments that are not explicitly on the list of enumerated powers set out by the constitution.

I am always skeptical of this myself. It sounds good in principle, like most things, but in reality you have states following party and ideological trends and given that makeup if something does not work or needs modification it is rarely if ever done. So it is a failure of an experiment in terms of learning and changing.

I honestly am of the mind that some things do require a blanket approach as perhaps a baseline requirement for some things but states can build on and others are a bit more variable in terms of how much input if any the federal government or state governments should have on the issue.

    Come to think of it maybe we should reinstate the senate of the founders and repeal the 17th amendment ...

This one I am totally against given the current make up of elections in states. If there was more balance in politics than I may be more open but state legislatures are often even more nutty IMO.

Look Raist bunnies...