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Late Great Donald Blake 

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Subj: Re: So then you don't really have any problem with people voting for Trump, right?
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 at 10:04:54 pm EST (Viewed 192 times)
Reply Subj: So then you don't really have any problem with people voting for Trump, right?
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 at 10:21:41 am EST (Viewed 202 times)

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Not trying to sound rude or provocative here, but I'm curious about everyone's sort of demuring when the question of whether to deplatform Rogan and constraining the larger conversation to an issue of rights. It seems like a red herring to me. In otherwords of course no one is infringing on anyone's individual rights (precisely) but the question is whether or not that's a good idea, not whether the various actors are breaking the law. There are greater issues of cause and effect, and of the motivations of some of the people involved.

For the liberals in the room: people absolutely have the right to vote for Trump I'm sure you'll agree, that doesn't mean we don't have very extensive conversations about how we think that's a very bad idea. When Trump runs again will we just say, "oh yes, they have the right to vote for whom they want. Nothing really left to discuss then."

With any political issue there are several valences to view it from. I'm curious in issues of deplatforming; I have to wonder why liberals are constraining so much of the conversation just to whether people have the legal right to censor.

---the late great Donald Blake

I'm not sure if this answers what you are trying to understand, but I posted my thoughts here:

For me, I generally don't see an issue with people aligning what they spend money on and their values. Happens all the time. People also pull money from things they don't believe in. Been happening for a long time.

It's important to recognize the mechanisms by which it's done. Government censorship is different to me than the free market trying to cancel someone.

I think the internet gives the ability for regular folks to form powerful groups that can bring about change. This allows cancel culture to exist. But it's not just liberals cancelling conservatives. Both sides do it. Example: Colin Kaepernick. Another example: fellow conservatives who are anti-(anything related to) Trump. On either side, cancel culture can go too far.

Which is why it's important to assess whether canceling someone is just or if it went too far. In other words, whether you are on the right side of history.

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