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Subj: A question
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 at 02:23:52 pm EST (Viewed 144 times)
Reply Subj: Re: oh so you don't think pantheism and atheism are the same thing?
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 at 10:16:18 pm EST (Viewed 189 times)
Quote:What’s the difference, other than scale, if I believe a rock in my front yard is “God” than the entire universe? Pretend that for some reason, I believe that this rock is “God” but don’t believe it has any powers or is anything special from any other rock. I can’t explain why I think it’s “God”, what godhood characteristics it has, but I’m willing to ream somebody who says I don’t believe in “God”. So, would I really believe in “God”; or, more likely, misunderstand what “God” means?
Quote:The difference is:
Quote:A rock monotheist would believe that just one particular rock was god.
Quote:A pantheist would believe that many or all rocks are gods.
Quote:An atheist would say 'Dont be silly. They're just rocks'.
Without delving too deep into the thread at the moment I understood pantheists as more the universe as manifestation of God. Not personnel God or anything else as such, although I imagine their are different flavors.
It would almost be a sort of nature worship on a grand scale as the universe is God, but not a traditional monotheistic or polytheistic god. In that case it would almost be immaterial if the thing itself as the impact that it has in the universe (or itself) is constant and measurable and behaves by rules that would fall under naturalism either way.
Perhaps I misunderstand though.
I agree that it is not athiesm, which would cut out the middle man and ask why assume that such a thing needs to exist anyway. An agnostic would probably say such a god may exist but the end result is the same.
In many respects it is similar to deism with the first cause being God, but not much after. Again, not atheism, but little is attributed to the God and the question again is why assume they exist if you do not have to do so, as the simpler explanation would be naturalistic and assume nothing.
Oddly, some of the beliefs almost seem to me like something described by Lovecraft or similar writings of cosmic horror.
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