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FreeKyle

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Late Great Donald Blake 
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Subj: Re: Lol well yeah basically
Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 at 09:20:40 pm EST (Viewed 280 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Lol well yeah basically
Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 at 07:09:12 pm EST (Viewed 278 times)



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    LGDB: how is their that kind of urgency.


Because as I said, war has already started and Ukraine citizens are picking up arms to fight. This could get very ugly for them. Painting me as some war thirsty phony berserker who just wants to send American 19 year olds to die is shameful.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-citizens-fight-military-weapons-simplified-process-2022-2


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    If we were going to circumvent the invasion that they morevor less predicted was going to happen, we already would have done that.


I do believe I said in a few posts above that Biden should have coordinated with our allies to stock troops in Ukraine.

Me: "He should (actually, already should have) built a coalition of freedom fighting democratic nations and coordinated to position the coalition’s forces in Ukraine."

So, I'm saying that we have should done that already.


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    They've already decided on aggressive sanctions, which will probably be awful for the Russian people, though I imagine Putin and his cadre of fellow oligarch will have spent the better part of the last 15 years making their actual assets sanction proof. I can't imagine they would have followed through here if they thought it would mean some kind of immediate impoverishment. Regardless, I think Putin is right about one thing, the West doesn't care enough about Ukraine or any principle enough to risk another world war.


Right - it's his people who will suffer, not him; he gets to remain in his palace and continue his dictatorship. So, sanctions are aggressive actions on the Russian people, not on him and his cushy lifestyle.


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    LGDB: Oh yes, storming the beaches of Normandy and giving a TED talk. Same bravery ball park.


Nobody was saying that so you should stop arguing with your wall.


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    As far as if Biden's a coward? Yeah probably. Or at least I have no idea. What I'm saying is that the opposite of Biden in this case, Trump, the conservatives, people beating the war drum are every bit the coward. There's risking your life, and then there's expecting other people will do that for you.


You sound like a fireman who once got a little burned and then whines that he never wants to go back unless he feels like it. And that other firemen shouldn't have to run into burning homes and risk their lives to save people because although most people expect that, most people wouldn't want to do that.

Am I missing something, chief?


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    LGDB: So are you saying that since 19 year olds could have chosen not to enlist then it's okay to cavalierly send them to die?


There's nothing cavalier with helping an ally - under current attack - fight. You make it sound like I want the US to pick and instigate a fight - I'm not. It's to help defend another country against a bully.


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