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Subj: Re: oh so you don't think pantheism and atheism are the same thing?
Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 at 10:15:01 am EST (Viewed 155 times)
Reply Subj: Re: oh so you don't think pantheism and atheism are the same thing?
Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 at 12:51:42 pm EST (Viewed 190 times)

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    Never met an ethical atheist? Do you know any? I know more unethical Christians and thirsts than atheists or agnostics.

    Just seems like a blanket statement that assumes morality is from God or must be.

Lots of them, including my online interactions. I'm not arguing that morality comes from God but that in general: believing that a supernatural entity will hold you to account creates a fear and anxiety that atheists don't have. This doesn't automatically make religious people more moral, just that there's a part of their belief system that consciously or subconsciously adds a mental restriction that atheists don't have. Religious people sometimes ignore this fear and anxiety, but deep down, they are still bothered that they offended a supernatural being that will remember and make them accountable.

I would disagree. It dies not work for the prison system or death penalty. At least on the whole. And does not stop bad behavior from theists

If anything some exalt in the person x is going to hell. Which seems immoral and unchristian to me.

Fear of punishment does not seem to do much even for those that believe in it strongly. As the terms of what it takes to be punished are often unclear from one faith to the next. Where more or less it can be everybody not just like me is going down.

And some faiths would allow a death bed redemption by downplaying works for salvation.

Does not mean much morally where it should matter more if an action will cause harm and then consideration of the need for it.

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