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The Silver Surfer

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
In Reply To
The Avenger

Location: New Jersey
Member Since: Thu Dec 02, 2021
Subj: Re: I think you're just playing into their hands.
Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 at 06:42:23 am EDT (Viewed 174 times)
Reply Subj: Re: I think you're just playing into their hands.
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 at 01:54:20 pm EDT (Viewed 187 times)



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    he working class would outlaw Islam if it could, and probably any non-Christian religion, certainly witchcraft, probably atheism


WOW that is not true.

As someone who grew up in not only a working class neighborhood, but a Midwestern Working class neighborhood, I can tell you that view is not only wrong, but shows a shockingly out of touch with the world.

Working Class Muslims are not are not uncommon, and atheists... those are not exactly rare.

I was a (half) Jew living in that neighborhood, who knew Muslims and atheists, and still do, and in the case of the middle, that included directly after 9/11.

You do know that cities, and the surrounding areas have working classes, right? They also tend to be pretty not only ethnically, but religiously diverse.

I am going to go out on a limb here... you do not now, nor likely have ever known many working class people have you?

I can't believe anyone who has, at least in any place within a spitting distance of a city... where the majority of people live... could be that ignorant of things. This is the kind of thing people hear from talking heads and assume most be a universal truth.

You think this hate us tied to economics based on what? deindustrialization?

You won't get any argument from me that it is bad for America, but as some one who grew up less than five mikes from a transmission plant, where people of multiple religions worked, and sent their kids to the same school as me, I can tell you it is not true.

I remember my senior year of high school, many of those same kids sweat bullets for weeks because they did not know if their parents would have jobs the next month, and some didn't I am familiar with what it does to people, and the desperation it can breed, and can tell you from actual experience, that your assumption is ridiculous.

The more likely scenario is to disillusioned with both major political parties. The hatred is willing to go more towards the system... which both Trump did feed off, but so did Sanders. Sanders got a hell of a lot of that working class vote in the 2016 primaries.

As someone who had to work a lot of working class jobs... or lower... until I got a job in what my degree was for, I can tell you that trend grew. In cities at least. Also, plenty of atheists, and nobody gives a shit.






I know, you have some response to why the framers is not a good argument, and I will read it, I promise, but that was too ridiculous to not point out the foolishness.