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The Avenger

Location: New Jersey
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Subj: Re: Italy has a gun culture but no mass shootings
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 at 05:56:48 pm EDT (Viewed 129 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Italy has a gun culture but no mass shootings
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 at 05:05:22 pm EDT (Viewed 130 times)



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    The arguments are sort of dumb really. If you need guns to overthrow what is supposed to be a democratic government than you are a terrorist.



Unless the government goes insane.

But I would argue that our government is too strong for militias of any size to threaten it.



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    The second amendment has stopped zero tyrants but has led to a lot of innocent people to be killed.



I agree. But we haven't had any tyrants yet. Gun enthusiasts would claim we haven't had any tyrants because our populace is well armed. We can claim bullshit but we can't prove a negative.



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    Gun culture is supposedly enshrined in the constitution but it is not and is not a sacred thing. It is an outdated amendment gone out of control. As militias are a thing of the past. Yet scotus is likely to expand gun rights and make gun control harder despite their supposed concerns for originalism and textualism.



Actually, textualism very clearly supports state militias, and originalism (based on writings of the time) supports the idea that the states wanted to be able to protect themselves from federal tyranny. Fear of federal tyranny was a very big thing back then. But back then, everybody had the same weapons. Nowadays, militias have semi-automatic rifles, and the government has fighter jets, helicopters, missiles, tanks, fully automatic machine guns, and on and on, plus they're highly trained and highly coordinated with battle-tested strategies and tactics. They would squash any militia like a bug.



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