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Late Great Donald Blake 

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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Would be Watcher

Location: Canada
Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
Subj: Re: So the board's being pretty quiet. Could it be because of the state of things
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 at 07:05:23 pm EDT (Viewed 180 times)
Reply Subj: Re: So the board's being pretty quiet. Could it be because of the state of things
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 at 06:57:23 pm EDT (Viewed 178 times)

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    So LGDB are you suggesting, we shouldn't have imposed sanctions on Russia to punish them for an unprovoked attack on a sovereign democratic peaceful nation?  

    LGDB:  Yes.  But more importantly, I'm asking why are the illegal wars of the Russians worth disrupting the global supply chains and increasing food insecurity of millions of people around the world, but the illegal wars of the Saudis in Yemen are fine and as a matter of fact we're fine with selling them weapons to prosecute it?
It was sanctions, war or doing nothing.

I get your point, but to me it's obvious that doing nothing would have been the worse of the 3 options. 

If there were no consequence to that invasion, then why would Russia stop there? Next Poland and then who knows? With the line of thinking that leads to no consequences, Putin has absolute freedom to do whatever the F**k he wants.

You can't have your cake and eat it. There was going to be consequences regardless of the option chosen. Maybe it could have been better mitigated, but I don't know what Biden himself could have done at this point. I don't like Biden, but previous administrations (Republicans and Democrats) are more responsible for the state of todays world than Biden. He mostly inherited of a mess that was ripe to explode in his face.  

Maybe war would have been a better choice? The only problem is they have a nuclear arsenal and a leader that is likely to use it if he is cornered. So, sanction, as bad as they are, seems like the only reasonable option to me.

Right.  Right.  I'm aware.  Putin bad.  I don't disagree.  I just think it's a bit naive to think that what's motivating this kind of decision on our part-- the sanctions and our stated intention of extending the war--is attributable to a belief in democracy or such unyielding moral scruples.  As I've said, if that were the set of motivating principles then how would you explain our relationship with Saudi Arabia?  With our AT BEST passive acceptance of their humanitarian abuses against the people of Yemen?  Or for the Israeli occupation of Palestine.  It's all principles and pearl clutching with Russia but all cynical realpolitik with out monstrous "allies."

--- the late great Donald Blake

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