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Late Great Donald Blake 

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Subj: The price of not trying is higher than failing even most of the time. 
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 at 02:49:12 pm EDT (Viewed 134 times)
Reply Subj: Re: I'll respond in length later, but what's all this about short term solutions.
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 at 02:37:17 pm EDT (Viewed 134 times)

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    So why not try and fight it out in court.  Your commitment to certainty that this is all some forgone conclusion, that if the Dems aren't already doing it, it must already be impossible is as ideological as it gets.   Further, you seem to be positive that no such other proposals exist.  How confident in that are you?


I'm not. In multiple posts I believe I have said I would love to hear alternative proposals to those commonly put forward. 

My confidence that I do not know all is certain. If you have something that let me know. 

As for the fact that actions would be challenge in court. I am pretty certain of that. You should be too if you pay attention to any political action. Does that promise certain defeat? 

No, but if you think a massive progressive proposal is getting through the current Federal court system than it is wishful thinking. It is possible I guess, but only in the barest terms. Given that Federal courts now decide immigration policy and define the CDC's authority as limited to methods of sterilization in their recommendations. 

I mean you haven't foggiest what could be done, but you're pretty sure the odds are slim to none lol

I would say for one Biden should be putting hid full throated support behind certain effort and further TRY to use EOs and pressure from the Justice Department and let the Republicans try to stop you.   The idea that you don't think there's a difference politically to the public between trying and failing vs not trying because it's too hard is just sort of silly.  We know 100% of the things Biden doesn't try aren't going to succeed.


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