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The Avenger

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Subj: Re: Wokism
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 at 01:22:53 pm EDT (Viewed 152 times)
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This is a topic that comes up more and more frequently on these boards and on other places that things are becoming more political, more PC and so on and so on.

To some extent I may agree, but to me it has started to seem like it tilts too much the other way towards individuals that seem to be offended by anything that differs from what they think should be. It is their right to think what they want but at times it comes very close to being very ugly (racist, sexist, homophobic etc).

On another board I had a very long discussion and the best definition of the concept I got was that media was shoving certain ideas or lifestyles down people's throats and they had enough of it. Mostly they said this referred to making women like men in giving them male traits or normalizing homosexuality or LGBTQ things.

To me that seems odd, so whenever the media or movie does that, it is woke and will lead to failure if it does not delve there or is it only when an existing property is changed to fit there?

Like Ghostbusters (2016) I would agree falls under that to some degree with a gender swap with the lead cast, but I do not think that is why the movie was not very good. It was just not a very good or memorable film, but it is still there.

I bring this up only because it seems to be an overused criticism that I am not sure is a criticism. I mean the most recent example I have seen be somewhat hammered as woke that is quite good was Sandman. Opinions will differ but alot of the folks knocking it are doing so based on the most cosmetic or gay being icky perspectives.

There is just some irony about some groups that fight to be offensive being offended and so willing to throw out a blanket label.

I have seen it used a little with the She Hulk show but have not seen it yet myself to judge one way or another. I am sure it focuses on experiences some women have, and should with a woman lead.

I try not to use such loaded terms as "woke" but I think most people would say something is woke if it shows the non-straight, non-white, or female communities as heroes or victims or full of wisdom while showing the straight white male community as villains or fools.

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