|Cosmic Marvel >> View Post|
Subj: Re: Ultimates 100 - final issue
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 at 11:46:44 pm EDT (Viewed 172 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Ultimates 100 - final issue
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 at 06:31:43 pm EDT (Viewed 194 times)
Quote:The cosmic beings may not know every detail but they knew they were in universe 8. So they knew there was at one point a universe 1. They may not have known it still existed outside of the current multiverse in a void plotting revenge but they knew there were 7 previous universes. They've said it constantly. Often characters say universe or cosmos rather than Multiverse.
Quote:And the splash page with the Eternities is all the proof I need to know I'm right. That told us there were 7 iterations of Eetrnity including the First Firmament and the current Eternity representing iteration seven and eight.
You are really invested in the idea that Al Ewing didn't make poor choices with some of the words he wrote.
Okay, one last time. I'll start by stating one ABSOLUTE FACT: A multiverse is made up of multiple universes so, while a cosmos can be either a universe or a multiverse, A MULTIVERSE IS NOT THE SAME AS A UNIVERSE AND NEVER CAN BE.
With this absolute fact in mind, the statements made by the various cosmic beings can be interpreted in one of two ways:
Explanation #1: There was one universe and seven multiverses which together made eight cosmoses. This is what you have been saying. All you have to do to make this true is admit that the First Firmament and the ghost of the Shaper of Worlds were both wrong when they claimed that the Eternity who died and his reborn self were both the seventh and eighth MULTIVERSES because (see the Absolute Fact).
Explanation #2: There was one universe and eight multiverses which together made up nine cosmoses/iterations of reality. The two only beings (just Mor-I-Dun and the reborn Living Tribunal) who knew the current reality as the "Eighth Cosmos" seemed to be unaware of the original universe which predated the existence of any of the multiverses. The fact that the caged Eternity didn't seem to know who his jailer was could be taken as supporting this theory. Or not.
You can choose which explanation you like better but I pick the second one. I'm not going to argue about it anymore.