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Subj: Re: Legion of Super-Heroes retroboot questions
Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 at 06:15:40 pm EDT (Viewed 250 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Legion of Super-Heroes retroboot questions
Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 at 04:50:04 pm EDT (Viewed 272 times)

    So presumably Supergirl never died in the crisis in the Johns version of the Legion? Or was she just never a part of the Legion? Or did she die and come back from the dead.

    Really unsure where she fits in.

I see where you're coming from. I can't offer anything solid as an answer as in principle when Johns revived the team it would have been the Supergirl as written by Sterling Gates who was a member of the team. This was largely implied, if not outright confirmed, in a Supergirl Annual at the time and certainly when She first meets Brainiac 5 as he arrives to help Superman repel Brainiac's assault on New Krypton and Earth. There sterling gates was reestablishing the traditional doomed love that Brainy had for Kara and the fact that her death was historical reality for him, but any further development was halted by the 2011 rebooting.

In the 2011 Levitz series Brainiac 5 is well aware of the 'Flashpoint' event and is deep into trying to find some way to resume time-travel and investigate events in the 21st century, a team of Legionnaires is also trapped in the 21st century and is dubbed Legion Lost, whether the Legion is aware that reality has been rewritten was never made all that clear however. The subsequent appearances of the Legion in Grant Morrison's Action Comics and Justice League United are debatable as the events and team line-ups seen there are at odds with the previously established Legion and might be taken as some alternate timeline versions.

(And despite what the internet assumes Paul levitz' ending to his 2011 run did not unequivocally state that that book he had been writing took place on Earth-2 or somesuch.)


      "Take it as you will" was the message.


        That's all correct. In the short Adventure Comics series that featured Kal-el/Superboy and the Legion(circa 2009) Levitz did seem to be suggesting though that young Clark followed a very similar path the the Pre-Crisis and therefore much or all of those historical Legion stories could/did happen as you remember them. More or less.

    Right but a lot of the events between LOSH v3 #37 and 63 are um...different now I guess. Or going back even further with Supergirl and the Crisis maybe.

Yes that's right, and as with current Superman developments it's best not to think on it too much and just accept that a rough approximation of the years in question did take place....



      Their relationship was actually suggested back in the Levitz/LaRoque years, around #22 as I remember it, and it quietly developed from there until Giffen and the Bierbaum's made it fully explicit. And Yes Levitz made it very clear that the two were still a couple as he took control of the 2011 series - an early filler issue with Walt Simonson as guest artist comes to mind as one example of a nice scene between the two.

    I kind of wish they would just say Ayla is Bi.

Well, maybe she is! She and Timber Wolf had a relationship for years, but her relationship with Vi was and is one of my personal favourites in the Legion and a fine example of how to introduce and present same-sex couples in comics, as it developed quite naturally and was never overstated.

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