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Knight

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Reverend Meteor

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Subj: Re: Is Warner/DC finally learning from Marvel about DC Movies?
Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 at 03:55:04 pm EDT (Viewed 171 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Is Warner/DC finally learning from Marvel about DC Movies?
Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 at 03:08:06 pm EDT (Viewed 170 times)




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        Diana is both of those things though!

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        No. She was brought to life by Zeus, but that's all. She's not a goddess or demigoddess. Zeus didn't father her in a 'natural' way. She's like Adam and Eve, not Hercules.

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          And while she's been trained in combat and the use of weaponry she's not by nature a warrior. Just the opposite, in fact. She was brought up in a society where there had been no war for centuries, by people who eschewed war and had built a society based on peace, love and tolerance.



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    I usually hate the argument that something is supposed to be good because it sells well...but I can't see that approach selling well.



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    I think most people who would want to see a Wonder Woman movie would want to see Wonder Woman be some sort of bad ass who could hold her against any male character instead of being an enlightened pacifist. They would rather see a tribe of warrior women than women philosophers.



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    The movie may be getting Wonder Woman wrong...but I like that way better. Give me my warrior women.


Uhhh, Diana worked just fine, and sold lots of comics, as a woman preaching peace. She was also this way for the late 80's and early 90's. To a lesser extent, she was even this way all the way to 2011 (but even less so than before, but it was still there) and her comic consistently kept selling well. Not bad for a woman raised by women of peace. Diana was a woman of peace, she preached it for years but was also trained on how to fight so she was ready when peace failed. There is a way to take the right balance to the big screen without focusing too much on peace or too much on her "warrior" aspect.

The movie focuses too much on Diana the Warrior and that simply isn't Diana at all and it never will be. Do you know why the Nolan Batman films did so well? Part of the reason was they got Batman right (mostly). But then look at MoS when they tried writing him acting like Batman. It didn't work and it never will. And it won't work for Diana until they stay true to who and what she is. Diana isn't Xena, she's an ambassador of peace who tries the peaceful way first before smashing someone's face in. And a movie, under the right director/writer, CAN work. And I bet it would work a lot better than the crap that is about to come out next month.






It's interesting that a hero/villain performs one amazing feat, or use a power they haven't used for 20+ years, and that automatically propels them to a high status despite scans and evidence to the contrary. I don't know what is worse, selective feat picking that has only been done once or twice 20, or more, years ago or ignoring evidence from scans or the lack thereof. We need to stop putting our favorite heroes/villains on pedestals and start putting them where they really belong. But it's evident that people never will because they would rather accuse others of cherry picking feats, when they don't, and being 'morally superior' when they aren't. I guess being honest and as fair as possible only opens one up to being the target of childish accusations and fault finding by those who insist on acting petty and childish. What happened to a good debate between two civil, mature, adults?
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