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Subj: Re: Want to rank the replacement members just for the Hell of it?
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 at 12:18:36 pm EDT (Viewed 182 times)
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1. Darla Deering
I feel bad putting her first.... I'd feel bad if I didn't.

2. She-Hulk
Probably the real number one, out of all the many replacement members, she's the one who "took" the most. I guess we also ought to discuss which member is the best to BE replaced. I wouldn't have thought it was Ben, but this worked.

3. Ms. Marvel
I don't feel that the Fantastic Four is the kind of comic where the subject of rape should really be featured, not even that time when Ben got pushed into a volcano in the Lee-Kirby run. Nevertheless, despite some questionable "not for the kids" content, she brought some drama to proceedings.

4. Medusa
Could be higher. I always felt they were reaching too much with dialogue like "Medusa's invincible with her amazing power of moving ginger hair", but she worked okay within the team. I've got a lot of nostalgic love for the period, and she showed that her efforts with a vase made Ben's Sunday best look weak.

5. Crystal
The opposite to her sister, in that you had someone so highly powered that she could conceivably take out the entire team, but they played it down. I was always surprised how little she was allowed to do in the Lee-Kirby run, and it was more Englehart where she came into her own.

6. Ant Man
Mainly for his run in that great spin-off title, which oozed goodness. Not so much for his run in the title proper, which wasn't much fun at all, and he seemed to think Johnny was after his underage daughter. Ick.

7. Spider-Man
It says a lot for how much impact Spider-Man had that he was in the book and I completely forgot. It goes back somewhat to what I was saying earlier, about which team member gets replaced. Ben and Spidey has never really worked amazingly well (it's OKAY, but it's two wisecrackers together, they need a straight man) and Johnny was the one he always had the connection with. But Johnny was the one he replaced. Worse, Spidey was serious in the run, they were fighting in locations where his powers didn't really get used to good effect, and the team were mourning the death of Johnny so he was like an outsider. All in all, not a good fit... but he COULD have been.

7. Black Panther
AS with Spidey, then with some of these, it's not the character, it's how they're used. BP was a great ally of the group, but when he was a member it didn't really "click". And I still don't get how he can hold the Silver Surfer in an unbreakable headlock.

8. Luke Cage
I've got a lot of love for "Sweet Christmas!", though he didn't really do much when he was in the title.

9. Nova
She didn't really seem like a developed character to me, more just someone Bryne was exiting out of the book.

10. Storm
Anyone even remember Storm being in it? She had nothing to do, did she?

1. Spider-Man - a swiss army knife, covering almost all FF roles except for Sue
2. Crystal - An early Sue sub - nice powers to compliment the group.
3. Luke Cage - early Ben sub. Not strong enough, but way more interesting than She-Hulk IMO
4. Medusa - extension of the Inhuman alliance
5. Ant Man - decent Reed Sub
6. Blank Panther - Batman joins the FF to sub for Reed
7. Darla Deering - entertaining but only really worked for me with Alred and Fraction's FF. An unconventional Ben sub. But it was different.
8. She-Hulk - boring Hulk spin-off. Unoriginal feminization of the the Hulk IMO.
9. Nova, Storm, Ms. Marvel - don't really care - boring!

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