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Subj: Re: 2-in-1 #2
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Richard's thread doesn't really seem to address the second issue so here's a new thread that does.

I loved it. One of the best comics I've bought in quite a long while. I had never heard of Zdarsky but after just two issues of this series he has joined the ranks of the very few 21st century writers whose names alone will get me to at least think about buying a comic - and all the others (Abnett, Parker, Hester) work for DC.

As for the art, Chelung, Dell, Wong, and Martin are doing a bang-up job. Perfect for the story being told.

Loved Ben and Alicia having one of their classic conversations while she sculpts the latest of her never-ending series of Ben statues.

Loved the banter between Ben and Johnny in the Fantasticar (bathtub version, which is my favorite) on their way to Monster Island, which Ben at this point thinks is the site of Reed and Ben's first adventure.

Loved the banter as Ben and Johnny try to find the precise spot on Monster Island.

Loved the weird goings-on (Mole Man and Googam, Son of Goom) that Ben and Johnny stumble upon. It made me think of the fact that there are surely always weird goings-on involving the Mole Man and no one on the surface ever knows.

Good fight scene only marred by Johnny's power failing. I'm not a fan of this plot element. I think probably none of us are. But it took up only one panel so whatever. Surprisingly, Doom shows up and saves Johnny. Some vicious dialogue - and when Doom realizes that Ben has told Johnny the quest is to save the Richards clan, Doom mocks Ben but does not tell Johnny the truth. I think it's important to note that. Doom could have caused Ben untold heartache with a few words, and didn't.

The monsters decide Doom is their new ruler and all Doom does is have Mole Man and Googam carried deeper underground. Doom then takes his leave after exchanging more vicious words with Ben - and his last words turn out to be a clue to where the doohickey actually is. In my opinion Doom did this on purpose. He knows where the doohickey is because he experienced (from his own perspective) the situation Reed was alluding to. I don't recall if we know for sure that Doom knows what Reed said to Ben via the time capsule message last issue - but it doesn't matter because I'm convinced, regardless, that he does. He's Doom. Master of technology, magic, and schemes. He knows.

The lightbulb goes on in Ben's head and he realizes what Reed was alluding to. And then we get a flashback that surely ranks as one of the greatest Fantastic Four vignettes ever published. This vignette alone should earn Zdarsky and friends an eternal place in FF lore. This was one of the greatest things I have ever read.

Victor Von Doof. 'Nuff said.

Five pages long. Five. Pages. Long. And it has enriched FF lore far more than all the pages that have been published this century put together.

Buy this issue for the vignette if for no other reason. You cannot live your life without reading this.

Ben and Johnny find the doohickey and are about to embark to - somewhere. Need to wait for next issue to find out where they go.


Issue 2 did not disappoint. It had excellent pacing along with the art work and writing. Doom, Ben and Johnny's voice has not been represented this well in a long time. Great action and characterization where everyone involved came across well represented. A minor quibble was Victor using the term "stupider" to denigrate his colleagues. It does not come across grammatically correct for me. I looked up the word online and there's different interpretations as to the word's official existence at all. Willing to let it slide in comparison to everything else I loved about this issue.
I'm glad to see that Ben just is not willing to let bygones be bygones between himself and Doom There's just too much bad history between the two to ever see a peaceful resolution even if Victor is truly trying to become a force for good. Their verbal confrontation had undertones of violence far louder than their brief physical confrontation. Really well done!
It never occurred to me Doom may have already guessed the truth on were Reed had hidden this mysterious device. You may well be right. And the flashback scene to the college years seemed so historically organic for these three men. Didn't feel forced at all just to further the plot where so much of what everything else Marvel seems to do these days of canonical history. Zdarskey really seems to get what the FF is all about from the simple college scene to the shared sly grin between Ben and Reed when even in the heat of battle with Doom as the Fantastic Four. Its a book I've been waiting to enjoy for a very long time!
Speaking of the college years, anyone else notice the date on Doom's treasured award? 1998 Here's an article from CBR about the reset on Marvel's sliding timeline.

Back to Reverend Meteors query in a prior post; what war could Ben and Reed have fought in since '98? I'm thinking the Gulf War is realistically about it to keep everything else timely. I wouldn't mind seeing that addressed again sometime and include Reed in this action.

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