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Beowulf

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Omar Karindu

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Subj: Re: Question about FLASHPOINT and the rules of changing the past
Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 at 04:16:22 pm BST (Viewed 5 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Question about FLASHPOINT and the rules of changing the past
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 at 05:41:36 pm BST (Viewed 522 times)

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Ah, but that's not how the story actually worked. Thawne altered time by killing Barry's mother, and time worked around the damage. Barry tried to stop Thawne from making that change, and time went blooey so that the DCU became an absurdly bloody dystopia. Time worked with the murderous bad guy to maintain a semblance of the regular universe; it fell apart when the hero tried to undo the bad guy's damage and *save a life* that, paradoxically, should never have been in danger in the first place.

In fact, the solution to the hellish world of Flashpoint was for Barry to give up on saving his mother. Killing Thawne didn't do a thing, nor did it undo Thawne's murder and the effective destruction of Barry's father thanks to Thawne's frameup.

So the rule seems pretty clear based on the story. The evil, Negative Speed Force allows you to change the past at will; the good-guy version doesn't. Moreover, by trying to stop Thawne, Barry even made him independent of Barry's powers, enabling him to kill Barry at no cost to hismelf or to the changes Thawne made in the timeline. Barry says as much during Rebirth, and again during the Hot Pursuit storyline. Flashoint bears this out completely.

Geoff Johns has defined the DCU as a place where the laws of time travel favor the bad guys.

Doesn't negate that there are plenty of different timetravel stories all set in the pre-Flashpoint DCU with very different rules. Hence my tongue in cheek remark. And Thawne was a crazy nutter. Messing around with Barry's past given his importance during COIE, bears testament to that. You don't dare to alter the life of the one guy, who is supposed to saves all of existence, unless there is something really wrong with you.


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