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Panthera

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Daveym 
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Subj: Re: You make valid points
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 at 04:24:52 pm BST (Viewed 7 times)
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We probobly shouldn't be talking about a book that isn't even out yet,,, but since the news is spread all over the internet all I can do is shrug my shoulders and join in the discussion.

I do feel weary at it all, this constant indulgence in self-pleasing fan-service rather than professional writers, determined world building, and an actual longterm direction being aimed for.
But take the book for what it is and it may be enjoyable, for instance Leagion of 3 Worlds is just such an exercise in fan-service, and yet delivers one of the finest examples of it I have read from Geoff Johns. While his skill at reviving stale and damaged properties made his name at DC I do think Flashpoint in 2011 drew a line under that due to its wiping of the past so completely. How absurd would it be to see Johns forced to step in once again to fix the mistake that erased all his previous (successful) efforts to fix DCs many mistakes... and yet here we are. And the question will be can he once again show that genius at fixing, as he did last in Legion of 3 Worlds, or is this one going to be the one that breaks the readerships patience and credulity?

I think perhaps he can do it. Perhaps Geoff Johns can sell Rebirth and its content and convince the audience and watchers, he has a magic to him in this regard. But the more direct and pressing question I have to ask is whether the management above him who ordered Infinite Crisis and then Flashpoint cease their destructive impulses and avoid temptations to inflict yet another reboot, purely as it is the easiest sales option?
I would like to think so. But the last ten years show otherwise... Dan Didio instinctively believes in the lowest common denominator and shortest cut, while Geoff Johns firmy believes in conservatism and tradition. Two polar opposites vieing for dominance, which explain the story of the DCU these last ten or more years.



I am trying to stay away from most of the spoilers, but on some level I am happy that redhead Wally West has returned. 
My problem with Geoff Johns started way back when he pushed aside Wally and Kyle in favor of bringing back Hal and Barry.  DC's strength (my personal opinion) is its legacy, but also the ability to pass the torch.  Kyle and Wally were wonderful carriers of the Flash and GL legacy.    I wish they would have done it with Batman.  Superman/Wonder Woman are different, as I see that they can be almost 'immortal' due to their physiology.
These constant reboots are a sad commentary as Daveym state, for an old leadership that needs to change.  Seventy Five years later, I should not still be reading grandpa's Batman.  Where's my Batman?  They'll learn with the comicbooks (-$$$).  Hopefully, they'll learn with their movie and tv outlets.  But considering all they did was give GJ another hat to wear ( doesn't anybody else think he is stretched toooooo thin?!?!!?)  They really haven't learned.


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