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Subj: Re: It likely will happen, however there is one important thing to remember
Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 at 05:42:14 pm BST (Viewed 563 times)
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 at 06:53:15 am BST (Viewed 9 times)

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The premise of the show has been that Reverse Flash went back in time to kill Kid Barry, future Flash stops RF but RF kills Nora.

This apparently changed things so that Barry wouldn't be the FLASH and RF lost his powers due to the changes and power drain.

RF then kills Well's wife and then absorbs/kills Wells and then makes the particle accelerator happen a few years earlier so that he can quickly recreate Barry and by proxy other meta humans so that he can get Barry's speed to aid him in going home.

Season 1 ends with Barry going back, about to intervene but his future self for unknown reasons signals him to not intervene. Barry closes the door and listens until RF is gone then comforts his mom as she dies.

Now Season 2 ends with Barry warping to the past and waiting outside his home until Future Flash takes Kid Barry away, THEN he goes in and beats RF senseless and then his past self does the big temporal fade out as time changes.

So in theory, Barry has reset his personal timeline back to how it SHOULD have been before RF changed things. He will still become the Flash and metahumans will arise, but now it SHOULD be occurring a few years later then it did with RF's changes.

This will affect things like Firestorm, Wally, Joe, Caitlyn, Cisco, Nora and Henry directly.

By proxy the entire city would be affected in that Henry isn't framed for murder and put on a public trial. How many lives were affected by that? Police, paramedics, detectives, the courts, the media...the public. all those lives will be affected, for the most part in a minor way, but perhaps a few major changes might occur.

Logically, Flashpoint Paradox should not occur but it likely will and may cause Supergirl's universe to merge and bring her into the Flash/Arrowverse.

However something ELSE would have to occur that would be bad enough for Barry to have to go back and intercept his past self and stop him from stopping RF.

Yeah, good points. But you also have to remember the Showrunners are well known for playing fast and loose with what is considered canon in the comics and a lot of times to an unrecognizable degree. To name some examples:

1. Linda Park of Earth-2 is Dr. Light when that title belongs to Kimiyo Hoshi (or Arthur Light to those who are tempted to cough and point this out to me).

2. Wally is white not black and he is not Iris's brother, he is her nephew.

3. Jay Garrick exists in the same universe as Barry, but in this show he's from Earth-3.

4. Caitlin Snow is Killer Frost not a genius scientist.

5. Vibe is a lame third-rate Super-Hero who doesn't even work with the Flash not a genius scientist who actually does.

6. Dr. Wells? Completely new creation.

7. Zoom. Nothing at all like his comic counterpart. Plus, he's a Wally's villain not a Barry's villain.

I can list more examples, but that would go into minor details like hair color and such. Now, I might get flak from some people for this post but let me make myself clear on something. I am NOT complaining for the thousandth time about any of these! I am simply naming them as changes that the Showrunners have made, proving they play fast and loose with what is canon.

So. What is the ultimate point I am trying to make? It's this. Don't expect "Flashpoint" to be anything at all like it was in the comics. For one thing, no Wonder Woman war with Aquaman. For another, no Superman or Batman. There will be a lot of changes, but some form of this storyline will happen now that Barry has done one of most idiotic things in the history of his career.

It's interesting that a hero/villain performs one amazing feat, or use a power they haven't used for 20+ years, and that automatically propels them to a high status despite scans and evidence to the contrary. I don't know what is worse, selective feat picking that has only been done once or twice 20, or more, years ago or ignoring evidence from scans or the lack thereof. We need to stop putting our favorite heroes/villains on pedestals and start putting them where they really belong. But it's evident that people never will because they would rather accuse others of cherry picking feats, when they don't, and being 'morally superior' when they aren't. I guess being honest and as fair as possible only opens one up to being the target of childish accusations and fault finding by those who insist on acting petty and childish. What happened to a good debate between two civil, mature, adults?
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