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Posted: Sun May 29, 2016 at 04:25:35 pm BST (Viewed 479 times)
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 at 01:52:51 am BST (Viewed 556 times)


    How many years early did Thrawne cause the reactor problem to take place, once he'd disguised himself as Wells?

Not until 2020 as others have said.

    If that never happens, then when Barry returns to the present, he can't have become The Flash yet, since the reactor accident is back on schedule...and didn't happen six months before Season 1.

On the other hand, since the Reverse Flash was erased from existence at the end of season 1, that particular time shouldn't even exist. In the very least, the real Dr. Wells should have been revealed as alive and well, Barry shouldn't have been the Flash (not yet) and Eddie should have been alive and well, and....and...

We can talk about time paradoxes all day. Either way, the showrunners opened a can of worms they can never close again. How anyone can claim this show hasn't jumped the shark several times now is beyond me...

    And if none of this happened on Earth-1, so we're starting with a clean slate, what of Earth-2? Apparently that Wells DID have the reactor accident at the same time as on Earth-1 in Earth-1's Thrawne-altered timeline. THE TIMELINE CHANGES ON EARTH-1 CAN'T DIRECTLY AFFECT EARTH-2. This means Zoom WAS CREATED on Earth-2. The only difference is that Barry didn't mess with the universe and create the breaches, so Zoom never got interested in alternate worlds.

As seen in season 2 finale, Zoom learned of Earth-3 so he was already interested in alternate worlds. That interest would still exist. The only thing that would be different now would be Zoom never learns of Barry's Earth and never comes over to it since Barry never discovers Earth-2.

    Zoom is therefore still alive, and could eventually learn how to travel to alternate worlds. He's also a pure menace that can't be stopped on Earth-2. He also likely never ran into Jay (no dimension hopping), so Jay's fine on Earth-3. Always has been... And he's also never met Barry.

As I said, in the season 2 finale, it was revealed Zoom has the power to travel to other Earth's. That is exactly how he met Jay from Earth-3, he had traveled to it and beaten him senseless, then took him to Earth-2 to keep him as a trophy.

    I suspect the Earth-1 reactor accident may be back on schedule, and will happen when it was supposed to (WISH I COULD REMEMBER HOW FAR OFF EOBARD SAID IT WOULD HAVE BEEN)...

    This is all going to be VERY interesting.

I'm thinking Barry will be the only one to remember the changes in the timeline. And if he wakes up one morning without powers, he's going to do everything he can to get those powers back (and this means yet ANOTHER tiresome episode of the Hero without powers trope, *Sigh*). So, that will accelerate Dr. Well's time table.

The reason for Barry wanting to become the Flash sooner? Barry wakes up and sees that the changes he made to the timeline by saving his mother are not good changes.

1. Iris no longer loves him.

2. Eddie's back, but not as a season regular. To add insult to injury, maybe he's married to Iris.

3. Joe never raised him as a son, thus no close relationship.

4. Joe never got a divorce and thus raised Fake Wally as his son, having the relationship that Barry remembers having.

5. Cisco and Caitlin don't know Barry.

6. Without Nora's death, maybe Barry never becomes interested in the impossible so he never becomes a CSI and ends up with a crappy job he hates.

7. Maybe Henry Allen is still dead in Barry's present, having died of a heart attack?

That's all I can think of at any rate.

Facing all this, how can Barry NOT want his old life back. Maybe this will make him face reality and that maybe his life wasn't so bad after all. So, Barry gets his powers back and goes back in time to stop himself from saving his Mom, resets everything back to the way it was and then comes back to the present. But surprise, surprise, Barry discovers Supergirl is a part of his own universe!

That's my theory anyway, and I'm sticking to it! O\:\>

It's interesting that a hero/villain performs one amazing feat, or use a power they haven't used for 20+ years, and that automatically propels them to a high status despite scans and evidence to the contrary. I don't know what is worse, selective feat picking that has only been done once or twice 20, or more, years ago or ignoring evidence from scans or the lack thereof. We need to stop putting our favorite heroes/villains on pedestals and start putting them where they really belong. But it's evident that people never will because they would rather accuse others of cherry picking feats, when they don't, and being 'morally superior' when they aren't. I guess being honest and as fair as possible only opens one up to being the target of childish accusations and fault finding by those who insist on acting petty and childish. What happened to a good debate between two civil, mature, adults?
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