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Subj: Re: Writers confrim next years crossover deals with the future Newspaper headline
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 at 09:15:01 pm GMT (Viewed 1198 times)
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    When all realities have a shared history (The DC ones do), it doesn't matter what you call them, the terms are interchangeable. Alternate. Parallel. Divergent.



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    And it doesn't matter what causes the quantum effect that makes reality split. Natural causes, the effects of time travel, outside forces, a Gardner Fox dream, or whatever. The end result is the same:



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    You get two alternative realities that have diverged from one, and run parallel to each other.


Except that's not what's happening on the show. You're still insisting these two things are the same thing when that's just not the story the show is telling. On the show, people from the future either disappear when the future gets changed, or their memories change to fit the new history. That wouldn't be happening if time travel worked the way you insist it does.


Okay. First, it's worth remembering that the writers' sloppy and often contradictory handling of time travel in the show is something fans have been complaining about ever since season one. The writers sometimes get it wrong. There are things that don't fit. So, with that in mind...

No one's memory changes. Every time Flash steps out of his reality (A) and creates a divergent reality (B), he always retains his memories of reality (A). That couldn't happen in a single reality because the instant you change the past, you'd change your memories too. Reality (B) would be all there ever was, you were always a part of it, and that's all you'd remember.

So for example in the 'flashpoint' divergent, Flash still remembers reality (A). But there's no change to the memories of the Henry and Nora of the Flashpoint divergent. That's the only reality they've ever known.

Reality (A) is still out there, still coexisting. But Flash doesn't get back to it. He ends up in a third divergent (C) which is similar to (A), but with differences.

Flash may *think* he's changed reality (A), but he's just got it wrong.

Roy Thomas understood the problem way back when he wrote Avengers #86 (See attachment).

The four dimension-hopping Avengers believe they've returned home, but as the Vision ponders...