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Subj: Re: CBR gives list of Flash/Arrowverse characters that need to perish
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 at 12:31:17 pm EDT (Viewed 222 times)
Reply Subj: CBR gives list of Flash/Arrowverse characters that need to perish
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 at 03:01:47 pm EDT (Viewed 258 times)
Quote:For example Sara's death on Arrow was unexpected but there was the mystery of who killed her and then the whole plot of her coming back to life had lots of great story mileage.
Sara's death set Laurel on the path of being the Black Canary. Sara should have stayed dead as the impact of her death is cheapened with her return.
Quote:On the other hand Laurel's death was kind of built up to. I thought it was good at the time, but after a season I think it's clear it was a mistake. But still story wise it had impact.
Laurel's death was random and should never have been done to begin with. It would have been so very perfect had it been Felicity instead. Her death would really have sent Oliver into kill mode more so than Laurel's. It also would have hurt Oliver more.
Quote:15 Lance's death would have impact everyone likes him, but his one daughter is dead and his other daughter is busy time traveling. Where is the emotion? I say just keep him around.
Agreed about Lance.
Quote:14 Steel- Who cares, I figured he would just get off the ship at the end of the season.
Power wise, Steel has too much in common with Girder over in the Flash.
Quote:13 Nyssa- They should have killed her a long time ago if they were going to. No impact currently.
I say kill off Nyssa. She's pretty useless at this point.
Quote:12 Hank Henshaw- Who cares, he is a nothing character right now.
Since I've stopped watching Supergirl, I don't really care what happens to any of it's characters.
Quote:11 Wild Dog- Why? We're just getting to know him. Let him get his daughter back and just stop doing the hero thing. That's the best ending for him.
Agreed. Let him have his happy ending and then forget about him. Oliver and the show doesn't need him.
Quote:10- Thea- It is pretty clear they have no idea what to do with her character. She just needs to go move to another city or they need to figure out something for her to do story wise.
Quote:9 Martin Stein- No. He needs to live. He is one of the core characters on Legends along with Sara and Jax, though they keep making Stein a bumbling idiot half the time
I say kill off him off.
Quote:8 Black Siren- Again, I could really care less about the character. The problem is. They shouldn't have killed Laurel, so now they want to like use Siren as some sort of band aid. But they already have the new canary and nothing for her to do either. They need to throw both of them out the window. They already F-ed up and they can't fix it.
Yeah, kill off Black Siren. She's doing nothing but hurting the show.
Quote:7 Atom- Why? Ray is like the main comic relief character. If he died everyone would just laugh because they were waiting for the punchline.
Agreed. When I watched Legends season 1, I really liked Ray. I say keep him.
Quote:6 Caitlin- No! Her story is just getting sort of interesting. They couldn't figure out what to do with the character for years. Then they have the she is going bad story line this year, but they only go half way. So now is there a redemption story? Is there a I'm going to be self serving story? Or will there be a I'm going to be a villain story still to come?
Agreed. Caitlin is getting interesting.
Quote:5 Maggie- Are you high? Maggie is like Kara's whole world. She would be absolutely devastated without her sister. Supergirl is like a "light-hearted" show and it would have to be a much darker show if that happened.
Kara's sister name is Alex, not Maggie.
Quote:4- Jonn Jonzz- They haven't really figured out where to take his character. He loves the girls, he has a mission protecting the Earth. He like that White Martian. But he just doesn't feel REAL. We don't see his everyday life like we see Kara and Maggie. I feel like we need to see that if he is going to be more than a secondary character.
J'onn is barely any better than a cardboard cutout on the show.
Quote:3- Diggle- No. As others have said he has always been the moral compass character. without him the show wouldn't work
Agreed. Without Diggle, Arrow would fall apart as a show. If he has to die sometime, then it's best to reserve that for the series finale when the show is finally ending.
Quote:2- Joe West- I kept thinking he was going to die instead of Iris. I'd say yes except Barry just lost his real father. Does he really need to lose his other dad too.
Let Barry keep at least one dad.
Quote:And speaking of Iris, I'm super surprised she wasn't on the list. My god they made it seem like she was going to die, and by the end of the season I had totally accepted it and then, she didn't die and I felt like they'd been lying to me all season. If they were going to kill Iris they should have done it this year.
Agreed. Iris should have died. Bring back Patty Spivott!
Quote:1 Felicity- I'm not a Felicity hater, but the writers threw her character under the bus this year. She along with Diggle were the ones with a moral compass. That was out the door this year, so who is she now? She is someone that has no moral high ground to give Oliver advice.
Felicity should have died instead of Laurel. She offers nothing but crude humorous quipps and hacking. Most of what she can do can be done by Fake Terrific.
It's interesting that a hero/villain performs one amazing feat, or use a power they haven't used for 20+ years, and that automatically propels them to a high status despite scans and evidence to the contrary. I don't know what is worse, selective feat picking that has only been done once or twice 20, or more, years ago or ignoring evidence from scans or the lack thereof. We need to stop putting our favorite heroes/villains on pedestals and start putting them where they really belong. But it's evident that people never will because they would rather accuse others of cherry picking feats, when they don't, and being 'morally superior' when they aren't. I guess being honest and as fair as possible only opens one up to being the target of childish accusations and fault finding by those who insist on acting petty and childish. What happened to a good debate between two civil, mature, adults?
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