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Subj: Re: Marvel going forward after the bronze age(quite OT)
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 at 12:12:36 am EDT (Viewed 52 times)
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just kicking around an idea or two. doesnt really fit on this board but I'd like to get any other opinions if possible.

I stopped reading comics in the early 90s and never really came back. when I did, I contented myself with silver and bronze age books, mostly because, it felt like all the good stories had been told. Im a bit of a proponent of the idea that characyers can only have a finite set of adventures in their lives. There are only so many times spider-man can fight Electro or Doc Ock before it becomes weariningly repetative.

But this introduced the problem of what to do going forward. companies still want to sell comics. I was thinking of possible solutions. These are some of mine, set in the 90s since thats when I felt things really fall off.

1. Replace older heroes with younger new heroes

What I consider the "New Warriors" approach. The idea is bring in a younger generation of heroes, either existing ones and/or new ones to slowly supplant the older ones.

to me the advantage of this is that we get new characters and new modern adventures and hopefully the older heroes can retire gracefully. Spider-man gets to retire with mary Jane. Bruce banner gets cured. etc. I like it because it gives our heroes what they have never had, a happy ending.

the downside is that it would be hard to make the new heroes as popular as the old.

2. Move on to the 2nd generation heroes:

Or the "Spider-girl" approach. Here we get generational heroes to replace their parents.

It has the same implications as above but keeps closer ties to the originals.

3. Carry on

I feel this is one of the options marvel chose, meaning we have 60 years of spider-man stories with Peter still in his 20s. Honestly, Im not sure if there are enough days in the year to match his adventures at this point

4. reboots

This is kind of what happened in the 90s and after. Creating all these alternative universes makes continuity, one of marvels main appeals, redundant. But I think the MCU used this well to cherry pick good stories.

5. replace heroes with new, younger versions

This is another option marvel went with and maybe the worst one. So instead of one spider-man you have many versions, none of which could be as popular as the original. Rather than create an original character, they just replace heroes with shadowy versions of them. Of course the originals havent gone away, so we have the worst of all worlds.

Were there any other options in your opinions? Personally I would have prefered version 1 or 2 from my options. But I'm sure sales would have suffered with either option. But I think comic sales died off anyways.

I'm ok with "Carry On" but I can see the conundrum. You can see the progression of sophistication in storytelling from the 60s to the 80s, so that it seemed that, by the 90s, all stories had to be of the "nothing will be the same!" type.
I'm not in favor of reboots as I'm a fan of chronology.
I don't like legacy heroes. I read Spider-Man for Peter Parker. Of course, part of The Amazing Spider-Man's success was the character growth. Some have said that the series should've stopped after Ditko or he should've married Gwen after issue 99. But I would've hated to have missed all the later stories. Spider-Girl was my favorite new "Spider" character by far.
I was ok with the Clone Saga but I would've quit if Ben Reilly had permanently replace Peter Parker.
So, yeah, I like the illusion of change. Keep Peter in his mid to late 20s, have the big guns like Dr. Octopus and Green Goblin return every 2-3 years, treat the secondary villains with respect and , most importantly, maintain proper characterization. I don't know if this would still sell, but that's what I've always liked.

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