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Grey Gargoyle

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Paladin

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Subj: Indispensable Six (Goblin, Doc Ock, Lizard, Hunter, Vulture, Mysterio)
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 at 04:53:41 pm EST (Viewed 132 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Silver Age - AF#15-ASM#120 - number of appearances of the main villains
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 at 03:04:50 pm EST (Viewed 125 times)



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    That's really cool. Thanks for the research.

Many thanks. The pleasure is all mine. \:\-\)
This idea had been running through my mind for quite some time.
You gave me the opportunity to materialize it.


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    It's interesting that Doc Ock and Green Goblin are pretty steadily matched both during and after Ditko.

Yes \:\-\)
Doc Ock was actually the most frequent villain: contrary to the Goblin and the Lizard, Otto Octavius was permanently an adversary.
Green Goblin & Norman Osborn both appeared during Ditko run but we had to wait for ASM#39 to learn that they were one & the same.
After ASM#40, the amnesiac Norman Osborn was part of the supporting cast and, otherwise, a villain.
Nevertheless, the Green Goblin appeared in key issues more than once.


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    I'm guessing the extra +1 on the Goblin might be the issue of Spectacular Spider-man (My favourite Spidey/GG fight)

Yes, this issue demonstrates that the Goblin was one of the most important villains even before ASM#121: because of him, there was a sword of Damocles hanging over the head of Peter Parker. \:\-\)


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    You've produced some other interesting results. I wouldn't have expected Kraven to appear so often.

Yes, absolutely. Furthermore, I didn't count his other appearances outside of Spider-Man comics (Tales of Suspense & Astonishing Tales).
Also, during this period, Kraven was often associated with other characters: Chameleon, Sinister Six, Vulture II, Green Goblin, Gog and the Gibbon.


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    And I think Ditko liked drawing the Molten Man which is why he used him twice.

    Electro, interestingly, didnt feature as much as he would later. Im guessing he was busy with Daredevil.


Sandman, Electro, Molten Man, Grey Gargoyle... Marvel Comics creators seemed to appreciate characters with elemental powers. Perhaps, the trend came from the renown of the Human Torch. (^_^)


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    Also, the Lizard probably gets extra appearances as Curt Connors the same way Norman Osborn shows up without being the Goblin.

Yes, absolutely. The tradition has continued to this day given that Curt Connors already appeared in 3 Spider-Man movies. \:\-\)


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    Thanks for the data.


It is truly my pleasure since it reinforces one of my ideas.

In my opinion, six villains have been Spider-Man's main foes ever since the Silver Age:
- The Goblin
- Doctor Octopus
- The Lizard
- The Hunter
- The Vulture
- Mysterio

https://www.comicboards.com/php/show.php?msg=smb-2021070316310306

I believe that they are the primary members of the central rogues gallery.



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