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Gamma Ra

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ross

Subj: Re: And everywhere he turns, betrayal?
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 05:42:51 pm CDT
Reply Subj: Re: And everywhere he turns, betrayal?
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 at 09:08:38 pm CDT

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Just overthrowing the red king and having peace wasn't that great for miek. His hive was no more, no more queen, and he always hated the pinkies. He said a couple of times that maybe you have to destroy everything before you rebuild.

Plus, when it comes to the hulk, there's no such thing as a happy ending. Having hulk find out it was miek is kind of what we expect to happen to him.



> > You make a great point about the friendships the Hulk had on earth and the ones he forged on Sakaar.
> > It would be doubly disappointing then, if it turns out Miek and Brood tampered with the warp core and killed innocents to manipulate the Hulk for their own ends.
>
> I don't know why everyone is suspicious of Miek, never stop making them pay. I wonder where Miek got that idea from. Brood seemed especially mournful about the deaths and destruction of Sakaar.
>
> > Of course, that could be yet another lesson to be learned. The Hulk has learned that friends can betray, maybe he will see that Warbound allies can do the same.
>
> It does seem sad at times that the Hulk seems disaster bound and can never have lasting happiness. Remember IH annual #8, one of my favorite tales.
>
> > If so, I pity just about everyone as the Hulk will be in a state of mind where his hate goes in a thousand directions and he trusts no one.
>
> Hate...hate leads to the dark side..oops..wrong board...Well that is a possible imperfect future route where the motto of the day is DTA...don't trust anybody.
>
> > What then?
>
> Maestro
>
> Greg Pak did mention that we'd get a totaly different Hulk by the end of this story. What direction he will take the Hulk, I can't say for sure, but what I am sure of is Hulk will find a way to smash.
>
>
> > > > Great post. I think WWH has been a great story-line in provoking controversy and in raising moral dilemmas. I know some fans of other characters/groups have been ignoring it as a Hulk fan boy fest but I think the story has incredible substance and I have really enjoyed (as a relatively non-Hulk fan)debating the finer points with the "Hulk crew."
> > >
> > > True indeed there is a lot more going on than Marvel giving Hulk fans a wet dream come true.
> > >
> > > This story and the Planet Hulk story have been so much more. Besides giving Hulk something that I felt he had been terribly lacking in, was a purpose. Hulk became a inspirational character for outcasts and those that didn't fit in. It was a slow growth as he was reluctant at first. The truth of the matter was that the Hulk had a fear of himself. He didn't trust that he could do right.
> > >
> > > Another underlying moral seams to be true friendships. The Illuminati claimed they were Hulks friends and many of them have helped him in the past in some of his worst times. But when things got tough they copped out on him. Not only did they lie to him and tricked him into saving the planet, they arrogantly tell him they're sick of being his "friend," and they know what's best for him. Well good for Hulk cause he's met some true friends ones that stood by him in the face of death. Friends that helped him develope a faith that he could do the right thing. Friends that have not feared him but told him when he was wrong to his face, yet still accepted him without passing judgement. I loved that about Planet Hulk. Friends that will not let him retrogress into an even more savage being but had the patience to help him grow into a respectable and wiser character. Friends who taught the Savage how to be civilized, a King.
> > >
> > > Yea right, Hulk Smash! see ya!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > The way I established the Hulk, the more he fought, the stronger he got....I assume he'll get worn out, but never the Hulk. Stan Lee(on Hulk vs Superman)
> > >
> > > Only the Hulk could have attempted it! Only the Hulk would have been capable of it! Only the Hulk could have done it! Stan Lee TTA #63
> > >
> > >
>
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> The way I established the Hulk, the more he fought, the stronger he got....I assume he'll get worn out, but never the Hulk. Stan Lee(on Hulk vs Superman)
>
> Only the Hulk could have attempted it! Only the Hulk would have been capable of it! Only the Hulk could have done it! Stan Lee TTA #63
>
>

> Just overthrowing the red king and having peace wasn't that great for miek. His hive was no more, no more queen, and he always hated the pinkies. He said a couple of times that maybe you have to destroy everything before you rebuild.
>

You have a point that Miek was acting a little Hulkish, but whether he knowingly caused the ships core to explode, I doubt it.

> Plus, when it comes to the hulk, there's no such thing as a happy ending.

Unfortunately this is the truth.

Having hulk find out it was miek is kind of what we expect to happen to him.

Not me and some others on this board as well.

>
>
>
> > > You make a great point about the friendships the Hulk had on earth and the ones he forged on Sakaar.
> > > It would be doubly disappointing then, if it turns out Miek and Brood tampered with the warp core and killed innocents to manipulate the Hulk for their own ends.
> >
> > I don't know why everyone is suspicious of Miek, never stop making them pay. I wonder where Miek got that idea from. Brood seemed especially mournful about the deaths and destruction of Sakaar.
> >
> > > Of course, that could be yet another lesson to be learned. The Hulk has learned that friends can betray, maybe he will see that Warbound allies can do the same.
> >
> > It does seem sad at times that the Hulk seems disaster bound and can never have lasting happiness. Remember IH annual #8, one of my favorite tales.
> >
> > > If so, I pity just about everyone as the Hulk will be in a state of mind where his hate goes in a thousand directions and he trusts no one.
> >
> > Hate...hate leads to the dark side..oops..wrong board...Well that is a possible imperfect future route where the motto of the day is DTA...don't trust anybody.
> >
> > > What then?
> >
> > Maestro
> >
> > Greg Pak did mention that we'd get a totaly different Hulk by the end of this story. What direction he will take the Hulk, I can't say for sure, but what I am sure of is Hulk will find a way to smash.
> >
> >
> > > > > Great post. I think WWH has been a great story-line in provoking controversy and in raising moral dilemmas. I know some fans of other characters/groups have been ignoring it as a Hulk fan boy fest but I think the story has incredible substance and I have really enjoyed (as a relatively non-Hulk fan)debating the finer points with the "Hulk crew."
> > > >
> > > > True indeed there is a lot more going on than Marvel giving Hulk fans a wet dream come true.
> > > >
> > > > This story and the Planet Hulk story have been so much more. Besides giving Hulk something that I felt he had been terribly lacking in, was a purpose. Hulk became a inspirational character for outcasts and those that didn't fit in. It was a slow growth as he was reluctant at first. The truth of the matter was that the Hulk had a fear of himself. He didn't trust that he could do right.
> > > >
> > > > Another underlying moral seams to be true friendships. The Illuminati claimed they were Hulks friends and many of them have helped him in the past in some of his worst times. But when things got tough they copped out on him. Not only did they lie to him and tricked him into saving the planet, they arrogantly tell him they're sick of being his "friend," and they know what's best for him. Well good for Hulk cause he's met some true friends ones that stood by him in the face of death. Friends that helped him develope a faith that he could do the right thing. Friends that have not feared him but told him when he was wrong to his face, yet still accepted him without passing judgement. I loved that about Planet Hulk. Friends that will not let him retrogress into an even more savage being but had the patience to help him grow into a respectable and wiser character. Friends who taught the Savage how to be civilized, a King.
> > > >
> > > > Yea right, Hulk Smash! see ya!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > The way I established the Hulk, the more he fought, the stronger he got....I assume he'll get worn out, but never the Hulk. Stan Lee(on Hulk vs Superman)
> > > >
> > > > Only the Hulk could have attempted it! Only the Hulk would have been capable of it! Only the Hulk could have done it! Stan Lee TTA #63
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > The way I established the Hulk, the more he fought, the stronger he got....I assume he'll get worn out, but never the Hulk. Stan Lee(on Hulk vs Superman)
> >
> > Only the Hulk could have attempted it! Only the Hulk would have been capable of it! Only the Hulk could have done it! Stan Lee TTA #63
> >
> >


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