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Lance Eason

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Krazy!!!

Subj: I feel like the Hulk that existed in the first three and a half issues...........
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 at 10:26:03 pm CDT
Reply Subj: This is the Hulk that should've existed throughout the years (1960s-Present)
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 09:26:28 am CDT

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> After years and years of watching the Hulk sink in the rankings of comic sales, sales of Hulk-related comics are now at or near the top of the monthly rankings. And all it took was a writer who understood the character and what so many of old fans wanted - the Hulk smashing everyone. Yeah, the storylines are good, but watching the Hulk put the smashdown on everyone has brought even this old fan back to buying comics. I'm buying after years and years (more than 20 years) of swearing off of the title and Marvel in general. Man, it feels good to see my favorite finally being written correctly, or at least as correctly as I have seen in a long time. I still don't believe that the Hulk should be as easily hurt as he has in the comics, but that still isn't enough to turn me away from his smashing. I can only hope that the "geniuses" at Marvel are realizing what is making sales increase.
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> Now as to my concern as to the ending of WWH. Didn't Pak mention that the Hulk is the strongest, as long as he stays mad? I think that Hulk will be "depowered" due to losing his anger. It could be from Sentry, it could be from the return of Betty, or it could just be from a spell. And that would really cheapen the story. I want the Hulk to get his revenge, then WWH should stop. And this means smashing all of the ones who stand aginst him.
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> As to whether this version is the strongest, I don't think he is any stronger than the Savage version from the 70's & 80's. He is definitely not as invunerable, even taking into account the change is the codes over the years. As to whether he is the maddest, have any of you dealt with a temper tantrum from a 3-year old? Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing, can make me believe that anyone can get as mad as a 3-year old. But all in all, it's nice to see the Hulk shown where he should be shown - "the strongest one there is."


This version of the Hulk (Gravage....Hulk Prime....whatever) in my opinion is the TRUE Hulk....until the Marvel powers that be decided when they brought back the Hulk in "Tales To Astonish" to gradually change the Hulk from "Gravage" to "Savage."


Was a little bit ill-defined.
His personality did seem similar to the way we've since seen the Gray Hulk and/or Gravage portrayed since.
It only really lasted for two issues, technically, then he became Rick Jones' more-or-less mindless slave for most of issue three. And then halfway through Issue Four, the Hulk gained Banner's intellect.
Part of their spiel from that point on was that the Hulk's identity or aspects of it was seeping through and Banner was fighting to retain control.

That Hulk lasted through his first short-lived series, his various guest shots in FF and elsewhere and his run with the Avengers. This sort of Banner-Hulk with rough edges also seemed a lot like Gravage.

Once Tales to Astonish started, they moved towards establishing the persona that became known as Savage or Childlike Hulk, and to me it was the first time they'd established a cohesive, consistent and unique identity for the character.

Until later developments spotlighting changing incarnations and the emphasis on the MPD storyline came along, I tended to see the pre-Savage Hulk portrayals as the creators trying to get a handle on where they were going with the character.
And, within the fictional construct of the Marvel Universe, I took it as Banner's psyche adjusting to the transformation and trying to keep its own presence and finally being submerged beneath the Hulk persona (which was the Savage persona).

I assumed that previous versions just had more Banner in them and hadn't completely "Hulked out" yet.

Of course, later it came out that there were many Hulks. So that changed the landscape somewhat.

But for me, the Gravage is essentially the first Hulk but the Savage is the true Hulk. For me, anyway.



> > After years and years of watching the Hulk sink in the rankings of comic sales, sales of Hulk-related comics are now at or near the top of the monthly rankings. And all it took was a writer who understood the character and what so many of old fans wanted - the Hulk smashing everyone. Yeah, the storylines are good, but watching the Hulk put the smashdown on everyone has brought even this old fan back to buying comics. I'm buying after years and years (more than 20 years) of swearing off of the title and Marvel in general. Man, it feels good to see my favorite finally being written correctly, or at least as correctly as I have seen in a long time. I still don't believe that the Hulk should be as easily hurt as he has in the comics, but that still isn't enough to turn me away from his smashing. I can only hope that the "geniuses" at Marvel are realizing what is making sales increase.
> >
> > Now as to my concern as to the ending of WWH. Didn't Pak mention that the Hulk is the strongest, as long as he stays mad? I think that Hulk will be "depowered" due to losing his anger. It could be from Sentry, it could be from the return of Betty, or it could just be from a spell. And that would really cheapen the story. I want the Hulk to get his revenge, then WWH should stop. And this means smashing all of the ones who stand aginst him.
> >
> > As to whether this version is the strongest, I don't think he is any stronger than the Savage version from the 70's & 80's. He is definitely not as invunerable, even taking into account the change is the codes over the years. As to whether he is the maddest, have any of you dealt with a temper tantrum from a 3-year old? Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing, can make me believe that anyone can get as mad as a 3-year old. But all in all, it's nice to see the Hulk shown where he should be shown - "the strongest one there is."
>
>
> This version of the Hulk (Gravage....Hulk Prime....whatever) in my opinion is the TRUE Hulk....until the Marvel powers that be decided when they brought back the Hulk in "Tales To Astonish" to gradually change the Hulk from "Gravage" to "Savage."


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