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Subj: Re: Justice League (spoilers) Superman regins while the Hulk falls.
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 at 02:56:28 pm EST (Viewed 464 times)
Reply Subj: Justice League (spoilers) Superman regins while the Hulk falls.
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 at 11:47:31 am EST (Viewed 657 times)

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As everyone knows I'm pro-Hulk and pro-Marvel. But I loved how Superman was portrayed in the new Justice League movie! Regardless of what you thought of the the movie itself, when Superman came back he kicked ass. He established himself as the top-dog and kicked the crap out of everyone... including Wonder Woman (which was refreshing). No assuming and no questions asked, he is the most powerful.

The Hulk has never shown to get madder and stronger in the Marvel movies and has been beaten up by the Abomination, in the incredible Hulk, Iron Man in Avengers 2 and by Thor in Ragnarok. Hardly, the strongest one there is. And it was even worst when he couldn't even beat Fenris (it was a waterfall) and Surtur (not even a moment of power).

He's a beat bag and NOT an accurate portrayal of my favorite hero.

Movie Superman>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> puny movie Hulk


Well, first off, comparing Marvel to DC is like comparing apples and oranges. DC has a completely different philosophy about physics and how top characters are treated. This is why we really can't compare characters between the two universes. In the DC, Hulk would be more comparable to Doomsday, and in Marvel, Superman would be more comparable to Gladiator (not Sentry).

As to the MCU, I absolutely agree with your accessment of the fight between Abomination and Hulk. Like my brother told me, the Hulk struggled to pick up a Humvee, and that's just ridiculous. As to AOU, yes that battle was screwed up - when the Hulk has his tooth knocked out and rages, Iron Man should have been shredded. Instead the madder/stronger part did not really kick in. Hulk was groggy from the mind control, which is the only explanation to be koed. Thor: Ragnarok brought us the closest version of the Hulk to the comic book version. Again, the madder/stronger part of his power was not shown. But what was shown was a Hulk that took everything and kept getting up. And no, he did not lose that fight. It was still a toss up, when the Grandmaster got involved. He did beat Fenris - just one punch knocked the wolf a ways. And as to Surter, Hulk wasn't braced for the punch and he still rattled Surter. Surter hit him and he went flying, only to get right back up. You didn't expect Hulk to beat Thor or Surter in a Thor movie, did you?

If you think about the Hulk, his power isn't just strength, it's also his invulnerability. He doesn't have a force field around him like Juggernaut, he doesn't have a spinning hammer to create a barrier, and his fighting skill isn't about avoiding damage. He just eats damage and keeps coming forward. If he does get hurt, he heals immediately, and he gets stronger and harder to hurt. I saw the start of that in Thor. The stronger/madder portion of his power is still the missing part. I have hope.

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