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Subj: Re: Immortal Hulk #36: in Cosmos #9?
Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 at 10:33:24 pm CDT (Viewed 110 times)
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Plus didn't Banner tell Tony, after Tony used Extremis to fix Banner after he was shot in the head, that it depends how much intelligence he channels into the Hulk?

Also at the end of Pak's run, wasn't it confirmed that overall Banner and the Hulks protest too much and that Banner has more control then he lets on, its just that Banner is such an unstable headcase that really affects the Hulk?

also Pak did drop the implication that Banner knew in advance what gamma could do hence he was prepped to survive gamma and also an implication that if Banner didn't become the Hulk that Banner would become evil/insane?

It has been eluded a few times how cunning and manipulative Banner can be, both which could be attributed to his abuse. You adapt and find ways to survive. Your own form of conflict resolution. However, that becomes your norm when you have not learned other healthier methods. There are quite a few instances of Banner demonstrating what is capable of doing when cornered--Banner-tech, using others to achieve an end-goal, retweaking Extremis to attack Stark, the "Island of Doctor Moreau (Gamma Mutate Version)"--the list goes on. Betty realized this in IH, his manipulation, his lack of genuine regret. He takes a reactionary, defensive approach, and seldom does anything proactively.

The questions you raise definitely are connected to Banner's confession in the previous issue. No one has held him accountable because his narrative has always been "I am the victim". He remains in that state because he has control. If he decides to be a stable, healthy person who is attempting to heal from his trauma, he loses that control, that predictability. His father represents what he fears in the absence of control. So far, no one has been able to show Banner what he can do to find peace.

It's a Catch 22--the more control Banner exerts, the more he harms the people he cares about.

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