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Subj: Re: The 2 Timelines in Immortal Hulk.
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 at 12:02:41 am CDT (Viewed 112 times)
Reply Subj: Re: The 2 Timelines in Immortal Hulk.
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 at 07:59:38 pm CDT (Viewed 112 times)

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Ehh.. I doubt he's got any time control. After all, if he did why wouldn't be go back further?

The text says Del is trapped in a memory.. so he's reliving his death over and over.. he's not dead, but he's not quite alive either. So in a way he's dying over and over. The radiation is killing him but the scientists are keeping him alive. The last thing he remembered was dying, so it makes sense, at least to me.

Or to put it another way, look at what Sterns does to Brian in #0.. he has him reliving Rebecca's murder over and over. So if you want to think of Del as being trapped in Hell reliving his death, that's as far as you have to think.

Also, as far as the 4th being.. Brian's not a gamma creature, as so far everyone he's controlled has been a gamma creature. Brian was just a skin he was wearing. I think the 4th is going to be revealed to be Sasquatch, who will be returning in an upcoming issue, and is a gamma creature, and long teased "Why did he resurrect like all the others?" It answers a lot of things, especially since the Red Door twist sets it up.

As far as Jailbait and Hotshot, absolutely. Here's what I wrote back in March -- "From issue 3, we have the Leader's creations from Middletown return from obscurity. Seems obvious the Leader would punish those who failed him."

Anyways, some more stuff..

Issue #9 - "It's wearing the face of Banner's father.. [..] We need to get it out of us" leads me to think it's Sterns back then, not Brian returning. But that might be more fuel for the time control angle, too.

Your explanation about the memory makes sense, and is more logical. I glanced over that text the first few times. For some, the concept of Hell is experiencing torment repeatedly, which also ties into Frye constantly remembering his death and Brian reliving the pain he inflicted upon Bruce and Rebecca, which reminds me...

Leader showing "her" to Bruce (after Hulk's death in #19) caused the reactions he anticipated in Banner and Devil, no doubt a part of his plan. As we saw in the current issue, Hulk will sacrifice himself for someone he cares about, and Leader will use that to further cement himself into the system.

It would not be too taxing for Leader to control non-gamma mutates. He has done that in the past. Now that he can manipulate a gamma creature with its unique Green Door, not much can stop him. TOBAA seems pleased with that.

Great call about Jailbait and Hotshot. And yes, I agree with you about Sasquatch. Whether it is Walter, Tanaraq or someone/something else, the Red Door is going to play a role.

I wonder if or how Immortal She-Hulk will be connected to this. We will have to wait and see, yeah?

Another thought--Betty (who returned as Red Harpy) and Rick (who initially was an emaciated body). I also wonder what part Leader played in their appearances and powers. More subjects to experiment with? Additional pawns in his plan to destroy Banner/Hulk?

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