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Immodicus

Member Since: Wed Jun 24, 2020
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Gamma Ra

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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Subj: Re: Al Ewing's run ultimately made me realize how much I miss Greg Pak.
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 at 12:34:18 pm EST (Viewed 121 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Al Ewing's run ultimately made me realize how much I miss Greg Pak.
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 at 05:57:05 pm EST (Viewed 115 times)



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    I was the one to first state that the terminology is the same in comics and the real world, it's just that the comics fictionalize the effects.Although MC fictionalize the effects of these energies, the name term "cosmic" is based on the dictionary definition. Marvel tends to use real world scientific terms, whereas DC was the company that came up with its own fictional energy sources.
    The point I was making wasn't geared towards Ewing only, but Marvel in general. Cosmic on a  real world scientific level does not trump Gamma in terms of energy output, as the two clips I posted above show. It's just weird Science writers come up with. Gamma is just a more powerful force than anything known.

    I'll look into Kubik in terms of his power being unlimited. Here's Stan Lee and John Romita Jr speaking on how Hulk's power works. This is Marvel comics Gamma power, not cosmic.
    https://youtu.be/HGI1_rAoYPM


See the thing is the word cosmic is hundreds of years old with etymological roots tracing back millennia to ancient Greek.
Hess called his discovery “cosmic rays” because of the dictionary definition of cosmic which already existed.
Cosmic rays didn’t define the word cosmic, cosmic rays were called cosmic rays because they were of the cosmos as opposed to of the earth.

What I’m saying is that “cosmic” in Marvel is largely used in the classical sense and not always (or even usually) referring specifically to cosmic rays.

You keep sticking on this comparison between cosmic and gamma rays but I’m arguing that “cosmic” has a larger and older meaning than cosmic rays specifically.
Marvel writers know this and use the term accordingly.

Power Cosmic - cosmic is being used in the classical sense
Cosmic entity/being - cosmic is being used in the classical sense
Fantastic Four’s original cosmic rays - is referring to actual cosmic rays

Just for reference:

cosmic adjective
cos·​mic | \ ˈkäz-mik

Definition of cosmic
1. a: of or relating to the cosmos, the extraterrestrial vastness, or the universe in contrast to the earth alone
Example:
cosmic radiation

b: of, relating to, or concerned with abstract spiritual or metaphysical ideas
Example:
cosmic wisdom

2. characterized by greatness especially in extent, intensity, or comprehensiveness

Example:
a cosmic thinker
a book of cosmic significance
the power cosmic






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